more predictions from Jo

moonmyyst13 moonmyyst13 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 23 00:34:36 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 120434


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mooseming" <jo.sturgess at b...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
> <arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> snip
> > 
> > I've occasionally posted theories on the possibilty of possession
> being a
> > key plot device for some time and it prompts some intriguing 
questions:
> > 
> > 1. It's the Chamber of Secrets - plural. What else was down there?
> 
> Jo
> I don't know but I bet the veiled gateway started life there!
> > 
> > 2. Heirs get an inheritance, otherwise they're not heirs, they're 
just 
> > descendants. What did Tom get?
> 
> Jo
> Well obviously he got possession of the family secret, no skeleton 
in
> the closet, just an extra evil salazar spirit in the body.
> 
> > 
> > 3. Vapour!Mort - no explanation has ever appeared telling us just
> > what the nature of this thing is and yet it appears to be a unique
> > phenomenon. When obvious questions are missed or glossed
> > over, my  thumbs prickle. Is JKR hiding something?
> 
> Jo
> Your thumbs prickle!
>  
> JKR hide something? Not possible!
> 
> > 
> > 4. If Voldy is a combinant it would maybe explain why DD calls him
> > "Tom" to his face, even though he tells the kids to call him Lord
> > Voldemort. If possession has taken place, DD obviously believes 
that
> > some part  of Tom still exists. 
> > Is he trying to persuade Tom to choose anew? To  break free with 
an
> > inevitable weakening effect on the possessing entity?
> 
> Jo
> Redemption is always a possibility, Tom has a better chance than 
Snape
> (Joke).
> > 
> > 5. "There are worse things than death, Tom." 
> > Eternal servitude to an evil master, perhaps?
> 
> Jo
> Repetitive thumb prickling
> > 
> > 6. Vapour!Mort (possibly essence of Salazar) may be immortal or
> > nearly so, but to meet his performance targets he needs a body.
> > Tom did fine until he got in the way of a rebounding spell. The 
> > senior partner in the Voldy team doesn't want to go through the
> > palaver of breaking in a new  host again, so the graveyard scene
> > was about producing an immortal carrier.
> 
> Jo
> If hosts are heirs then no bodies left, immortal carrier becomes
> priority, we know Voldemort was trying to find immortality before 
the
> unfortunate vapourisation perhaps this is why. 
> > 
> > 7. Harry's memories of the Godric's Hollow incident (PoA chap 9)
> > are interesting, particularly if you have a suspicious mind. Lily
> > is pleading with  Voldy and she asks him not to 'take' Harry,  but
> > to take her, kill her instead. Now 'take' can be used as an 
alternative
> > for kill, as in 'take a life' but it's use here when Harry is at 
the
> wrong
> > end of a wand seems a bit strange; 'kill' or 'hurt' would be a 
more
> > common usage. Maybe Voldy  wanted to possess Harry too.
> 
> Jo
> Suspicious mind, you hum it, I'll sing it.
> Maybe Voldy thought he could transfer to Harry in place of Tom,
> picking up the powers that he 'knows not' into the bargain.
> 
> "You do  not seek to kill me, Dumbledore? called Voldemort"
> .....stuff.....
> "We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom"
> Dumbledore said calmly".
> Knobbled from the inside out, that can't be pretty (the thumb
> prickling alone will drive you crazy).
> 
> 
> > 
> > 8. Lily is killed, Voldy tries to nail Harry. Strangely, Harry can
> recall
> > only one green flash; why not two? Some may argue that Lily was
> > holding Harry and Voldy was going for two birds with one spell, 
but
> > in that case why did the spell rebound? It hit, or partially hit, 
it's
> > intended target - Lily. Why  would there be a powerful enough 
> > rebound to destroy Voldy? 
> 
> Jo
> Old magic my son, old magic. Voldy comes from a long line of heirs
> passing on their inner salazar, presumably by some old magic. Lily 
is
> protecting Harry with more vintage witchery. They come together and 
*bang*
> 
> > 
> > 9. AKs cause no physical damage at all, judging by the state of 
Cedric.
> > So how come a rebound totally destroys Voldy's body? 
> > The spell transferred parts of Voldy into Harry. Seems a bit odd -
 why 
> > would a killing spell transfer bits of the killer into a soon to 
be
> corpse?
> > 
> Jo
> Perhaps transfer of Salazar essence causes death in prior host, Lily
> deflected transfer, leaving it incomplete, so death also 
incomplete. 
> 
> > See, it raises my paranoia index when there are loose ends like 
these
> > flapping around, and if it's possible to cobble 'em together and 
come
> > up with a theory as a possible explanation as to what's going on, 
it 
> > makes it even more interesting. Even if nobody agrees with me.
> > 
> > Kneasy
> 
> Yup!
> 
> Regards
> Jo







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