Did Snape Try to Warn James at GH? (Re: Here is an interesting Snape one)
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 23 02:56:10 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 120449
Mooseming:
> > Why? Because Snape was there when Harry's parents were killed(ok
> > ok making it up now but bear with me).
> > "Like father, like son, Potter! I have just saved your neck you
> > should be thanking me on bended knee! You would have been well
> > served if he'd killed you! YOU'D HAVE DIED LIKE YOUR FATHER, too
> > arrogant to believeyou might be mistaken in Black"
> > (POA, my capitals)
> > Snape saw James reaction to the news he'd been betrayed
> >(mistakenly thinking, as everyone did, the betrayer was Black.)
> > So what if Snape came to warn the Potters and James didn't
> > believe him, not because he was too arrogant but because he
> > couldn't see that Snape had the capability to change. James is
> > then partly responsible for Lily's and his own death because he
> > like Snape couldn't move on and believe in people.
Jen: Whether Mooseming is JKR or not, this is the best explanation
I've seen for why Snape hated James and hates Harry even more. If he
stuck his neck out to save James that night at GH, gave up his cover
and risked his own life, and James laughed in his face or refused to
believe him or even attempted to curse/hex him.....whoo, boy, I
can't see Snape ever forgetting or forgiving that.
And what was it Dumbledore said in PS, that Snape could go back to
hating James in peace? That would make sense too in light of this
theory. Snape goes to save James and Lily at GH, and repay his life
debt in the process, and James doesn't believe him, chooses to
believe Sirius instead. Snape not only can't save James, but he's
still in debt to a dead man. He nurses that wound until one day
Harry Potter shows up at Hogwarts, looking just like James.
Mooseming:
> > The events in Godric's hollow, Snape's role and James' role,
> > will be a primary motivator in the choices Harry has to make in
> > his final showdown with the Voldybeast. Critically Harry will
> > have to see the similarity between Snape and James, let go of
> > the past and see people's ability to change, something Lily
> > could see all along, something that marks you as a grown up.
Jen: But first he has to find out about Snape. I'm not sure Harry's
in any mood to have a nice chat with Snape. Will DD finally spill
the beans? There's no way Harry can make this critical choice
without all the information as we found out in OOTP. There's no
Black in the way now to muck things up or blame things on.
Ron seems to be the one in the Trio who has the most child-like
moral reasoning good/evil--Snape can't change, once you've gone bad
you can never be redeemed. Hermione puts her faith in Dumbledore, a
more mature response but one based on a decision outside herself.
Harry is the one with the moral dilemma, the choice to make inside
himself about Snape--has Snape truly changed and can Harry in turn
change his view of Snape?
Jen, wondering if anyone has written mooseming to tell her she's
very popular on the list at the moment? ;)
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