Do Dobby & Lucius know the prophecy?

curriebethany bethanycurrie at aol.com
Thu Dec 23 17:12:10 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 120495



> 
> Susan: 
> > "No, no, no," squeaked Dobby, shaking his head so hard his ears 
> > flapped.  "Harry Potter must stay where he is safe.  He is too 
> > great, too good, to lose."  [US hardback, p. 16]
> > 
> > I realize this could just be his commenting on what Harry had 
> > *already done*, at Godric's Hollow.  But somehow it seems 
to "hold more," if you know what I mean?
> > 
> > Then there's how Lucius always seems to know so much more than he 
> > ought to. 

> Jen: I definitely think Lucius knows, possibly via Snape who is my 
> choice as the eavesdropper. Like you said, Lucius seems to know 
> everything.  Voldemort's power may be fear and intimidation, but 
Lucius' strength is definitely his connections.

Bethany:
I've been wondering for awhile why Dobby approached Harry and told 
him not to go back to school (COS) - why not prevent Ginny from 
returning to Hogwarts?  She is the one with the diary and who becomes 
possessed and attacks everyone.  Tom tells Harry in the Chamber that 
it wasn't until after Ginny told him about Harry that he changed his 
target from mudbloods to Harry.  How did Dobby know that would happen?

As for Lucius, he definitely has the right connections.  Lucius is 
obviously a major player, as he leads the group of DEs into the 
Ministry of Magic even though others, like Bellatrix LeStrange 
constantly claim to be LV's most devoted servant. (Shouldn't they 
lead the attack then?)  Snape, trying to play double-agent (I 
suspect), has to remain friendly with the important DEs.  Because 
Lucius is such a top dog, Snape keeps in touch with Lucius to get 
information from the DEs about their plans to pass on to the Order 
(although it makes me wonder why he was kept out of the loop in OOTP 
when the DEs attack the kids at the Ministry).  Thus, Snape 
constantly kisses up to Draco at school.  The friendly relationship 
between Snape and the Malfoys is explained in COS where Draco 
mentions Snape would be an excellent Headmaster and his father would 
recommend Snape to the school board for the position.  (Excuse the 
paraphrasing.)  I don't know how much Lucius was personally present 
to hear (getting back to the prophecy) but I wouldn't be surprised if 
LV told him about it.  After all, what was Lucius talking about at 
home regarding the diary which caused Dobby to warn Harry?  Clearly, 
LV and Lucius have had plans underway the whole time to kill Harry 
and bring LV back (remember JKR said that if Tom had escaped the 
diary and Ginny died, LV would be much more powerful in real life), 
even if Lucius wasn't out searching for LV himself.

-- Bethany









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