Do Dobby & Lucius know the prophecy?
curriebethany
bethanycurrie at aol.com
Thu Dec 23 17:12:10 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 120495
>
> Susan:
> > "No, no, no," squeaked Dobby, shaking his head so hard his ears
> > flapped. "Harry Potter must stay where he is safe. He is too
> > great, too good, to lose." [US hardback, p. 16]
> >
> > I realize this could just be his commenting on what Harry had
> > *already done*, at Godric's Hollow. But somehow it seems
to "hold more," if you know what I mean?
> >
> > Then there's how Lucius always seems to know so much more than he
> > ought to.
> Jen: I definitely think Lucius knows, possibly via Snape who is my
> choice as the eavesdropper. Like you said, Lucius seems to know
> everything. Voldemort's power may be fear and intimidation, but
Lucius' strength is definitely his connections.
Bethany:
I've been wondering for awhile why Dobby approached Harry and told
him not to go back to school (COS) - why not prevent Ginny from
returning to Hogwarts? She is the one with the diary and who becomes
possessed and attacks everyone. Tom tells Harry in the Chamber that
it wasn't until after Ginny told him about Harry that he changed his
target from mudbloods to Harry. How did Dobby know that would happen?
As for Lucius, he definitely has the right connections. Lucius is
obviously a major player, as he leads the group of DEs into the
Ministry of Magic even though others, like Bellatrix LeStrange
constantly claim to be LV's most devoted servant. (Shouldn't they
lead the attack then?) Snape, trying to play double-agent (I
suspect), has to remain friendly with the important DEs. Because
Lucius is such a top dog, Snape keeps in touch with Lucius to get
information from the DEs about their plans to pass on to the Order
(although it makes me wonder why he was kept out of the loop in OOTP
when the DEs attack the kids at the Ministry). Thus, Snape
constantly kisses up to Draco at school. The friendly relationship
between Snape and the Malfoys is explained in COS where Draco
mentions Snape would be an excellent Headmaster and his father would
recommend Snape to the school board for the position. (Excuse the
paraphrasing.) I don't know how much Lucius was personally present
to hear (getting back to the prophecy) but I wouldn't be surprised if
LV told him about it. After all, what was Lucius talking about at
home regarding the diary which caused Dobby to warn Harry? Clearly,
LV and Lucius have had plans underway the whole time to kill Harry
and bring LV back (remember JKR said that if Tom had escaped the
diary and Ginny died, LV would be much more powerful in real life),
even if Lucius wasn't out searching for LV himself.
-- Bethany
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