Did Snape Try to Warn James at GH? (Re: Here is an interesting Snape one)
justcarol67
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Thu Dec 30 05:49:30 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 120743
Kneasy:
> IMO a more significant question would be:
> "Does the charm have to be re-set if the SK changes?"
>
> Snow:
> Was the charm in place before Sirius suggested changing secret keeper?
Carol responds:
I think you're right, Snow. Sirius was never the Secret Keeper, AFWK.
He talked James and Lily into using Peter instead.
>
> Kneasy:
> <snip>
> Extrapolating that to GH anyone Sirius told would also retain the
> knowledge, even after he stopped being SK.
>
> Snow:
> Dumbledore suggested the Fidelius charm along with himself as secret
> keeper to the Potters but I don't think Dumbledore was the one who
> engaged the charm. Whatever reason the Potters had for not allowing
> Dumbledore to be their secret keeper would be the same reason they
> wouldn't allow him to perform the charm. I think Dumbledore had his
> own resources as to finding GH that did not come from the secret
> keeper(s) divulgence.
Carol responds:
I agree with your first two sentences (not sure about the third).
Clearly DD *didn't* perform the charm since he thought that Sirius was
the SK. It must have been Lily who performed it while Sirius was
present, and then at James and Lily's request, Peter would have told
Sirius the location in their presence. (He couldn't have refused their
request without giving himself away.) So Sirius would know where to go
on the night of the murders, but he wouldn't have been able to tell
anyone else where the Potters were hiding. (If Remus asked him, he
would just have to say that he didn't know--or more truthfully, he
quite literally couldn't say.)
Snow:
As for Sirius knowing or being allowed to
> remember the whereabouts of GH after changing secret keeper status,
> wouldn't that debunk the meaning "changing" secret keeper? Sirius
had his own way of contacting James if need be and that was the old
two-way-mirrors.
Carol responds:
I don't think that Sirius "knowing or being allowed to remember" would
"'debunk'" the meaning of 'changing' secret keepers." He would know
the secret himself, but he wouldn't be able to reveal it. (Possibly he
used the mirrors as well, but he could have done so even if he knew
the secret. And he must have known it to arrive at Godric's Hollow
almost simultaneously with Hagrid--not instantly, because he rode his
motorcycle rather than apparating--but still quickly, before Hagrid
had taken Harry from the ruins.)
Carol, who wishes it weren't all so complicated!
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