Were Dumbledore & Snape involved in James & Lilly's death+ LV downfall?

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 90048

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "ilubom" 
<irina_l_ at h...> wrote:

>> DD was there for a basic job interview of ST, he says himself 
that  he did not expect to hear anything interesting that night. So 
why  would anyone bother eavesdropping on the conversation? 
<<

Dumbledore was the recognized leader of the resistance to 
Voldemort. Naturally Voldemort's spies would keep tabs on him, 
especially if he were going to meet with someone who wouldn't 
interest him as a prospective teacher.

Irina:
>>Also, it is a  bit of an unlikely coincidence that the 
eavesdropper was discovered  just when he/she heard enough 
to encourage LV to attack Harry, but did not hear anything else.<<

Perhaps the eavesdropper was  Mundungus or someone like 
him, who was banned from the Hogshead but keeps sneaking 
back in...I guess the WW has never heard of restraining orders 
<g>

It may be that this person was discovered, not by Dumbledore 
but by the Hogshead staff,  who escorted him out  quietly  so as 
not to disturb the other patrons. Dumbledore would not  know 
that he had overheard any of the prophecy or related it to 
Voldemort until his own spies reported it back to him. 

Irina:
>> - we know that DD trusts Snape, but do not really know why. 
Just  because Snape became a spy for the other side is not 
really enough.  If he betrayed one side, he could as easily betray 
the other. So why does DD trust him?<<

 Dumbledore knew that Voldemort could access Harry's 
thoughts, so he had every reason not to reveal to Harry why he  
trusts  Snape. But Dumbledore has an infallible loyalty test. 
Anyone who can summon Fawkes is loyal to him. 

Now, I do think it possible that Voldemort did learn more of the 
Prophecy from another source, someone else close to 
Dumbledore or to the Potters. I think  that one of the reasons he 
wanted to hear the thing for himself so badly was that he 
suspects this source also concealed part of the prophecy from 
him, for purposes of his own. 

As we are told in  CoS, the one thing a Dark Lord doesn't want is 
another Dark Lord competing with him. Voldemort must 
constantly fear betrayal from his own ranks. Sirius himself says 
that the other Death Eaters think Peter betrayed their master. He 
didn't, obviously, or he'd have been executed instead of rewarded 
with a silver hand. But what if someone else did?

Suppose that  one of the DE's , having heard the entire prophecy, 
sent Voldemort after the Potters, expecting Voldemort to be 
finished off. Nobody, even having heard the entire Prophecy,  
would have predicted that Voldemort would survive a rebounded 
AK.  It sounds as though Voldemort will mark the One as his 
equal, and then one will die at the hand of the other. Nothing in 
there about existing as a vapor for thirteen years.

 But Voldemort did survive, and that would put this betrayer in an 
awkward position The betrayer couldn't  succeed Voldemort as 
leader of the  Death Eaters  because of those, like Bella, who 
were convinced that LV was still around. 

Pippin