Entering the Chamber
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Feb 8 18:26:49 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 90472
Kneasy:
> >To do so it had to leave the Chamber; but Myrtle has
apparently seen nothing unusual in her bathroom recently. Isn't
this a bit odd? There sits Myrtle, alone and palely loitering in her
U-bend, desperate for company or someone she can nag, and
she is not aware of the multiple Basilisk forays that cause such
a fuss, nor did she notice Ginny using the bathroom to access
the Chamber.<<
Pippin responds:
But Myrtle goes abroad frequently. She attends the Deathday
party, she spies on the Prefect's Bathroom, and while she's in
the U-bend she can be flushed down to the lake.
Possessed!Ginny can wait till Percy goes to take a bath or she
can simply flush Myrtle out of the way.
Kneasy:
>>Tell me, how did Tom get *out* of the Chamber all those years
ago? He certainly didn't use Fawkes. It's a long slide down to
the bottom - and there are no steps.<<
Pippin:
The basilisk itself speaks parseltongue and it obeys Tom's
commands. He could cast a disillusionment charm on himself,
have the monster deliver him to the bathroom, then order it to
return to the Chamber.
Kneasy:
>> Harry first hears the Basilisk during his detention with
Lockhart - this is within the first few days of the start of the
school year.Is it likely that Ginny has already opened the
Chamber in that short time? <<
Yes. When Harry saw Hagrid that morning, there was a
half-plucked rooster on his kitchen table. This was Ginny's doing
(the cause of the uproar among the birds which Harry heard
earlier that morning) and it proves that she was already under
Tom's control.
Kneasy:
>> He's been spying on Hagrid and his little pet and
Aragog knows all about Basilisks. He fears them and begs
Hagrid to let him leave. He doesn't tell Hagrid what it is that he
fears but a brilliant scholar like Tom may have reasoned it out in
much the same way as the Trio, especially Hermione, did later.
Acromantula - spiders - obsessive fear - Basilisk! Pipes -
pipework - bathrooms. Check 'em out! Yippee! Jackpot!<<
Pippin:
Hmm....I don't think Aragog knew about the basilisk before it was
let out of the Chamber. It couldn't leave the statue of Slytherin
until it was called...but may be there's another way out of its lair
that doesn't lead into the castle. What did it live on for 1000
years? It must have been eating something to get that big.
Kneasy:
> so it's highly likely that he had been down there before Myrtle
>came eyeball-to-eyeball with her nemesis.
Pippin:
Yes. Riddle himself says "all these attacks" when speaking to
Dippet.
Kneasy:
>>Remember the timings in that event: Myrtle was being
happily miserable in her cubicle, hears someone speaking,
unlocks the door and faces her ultimate Freudian nightmare.
Not enough time for Tom to slide down to the Chamber and call
the monster from Salazars statue; the Basilisk was not
sleeping, it was up and about and eager to be out and at 'em.
Something, presumably Tom, had already primed it for action.<<
I always figured Tom and his little pet were on their way *back* to
the Chamber after a foray. They entered the bathroom from the
corridor.
Pippin
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