Harry's revenge on Snape?
clio44a
clio44a at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 8 21:25:32 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 90492
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" <baseball_07_05 at y...>
wrote:
> >By the way, as totally compelling as it is, I HATE the idea of
> >Voldemort snaking his way into Harry's mind and creating havoc
>there,
>> too sad! :(
>>
>> Sue
>>
>
>
> I agree. You can't always speculate like that, and actually expect
> anything in the story. It is JKR's story and you have to think what
> she is likely to do. Will she do certain things to destroy the
> charactar she created, I highly doubt it. Plus this is
a 'childrens'
> book. Well, not anymore. Just as Lord of the Rings wasn't a
> childrens book at all. You always have to remember these are
> charactars that JKR created, not real people.
>
> Andrew
I do not think it is necessary for Voldemort to manipulate Harry to
do something he will regret later. Harry is not thinking clearly at
the end of OotP. He is mourning, he is frustrated about Dumbledore's
behavior, and he is angry about the whole being kept in the dark
about the prophecy and Order business stuff.
I would not equal Harry doing something violent with destroying the
character, btw. This story is after all about choices and moral
growth.
In order to mature Harry MUST make mistakes. And learn from them. In
OotP JKR has lead Harry closer towards the abyss of bitterness and
mental instability than I thought it would be possible for such a
popular children's book.
BTW, I think it is an insult of JKR's abilities as a writer to say
quote:
>You always have to remember these are >charactars that JKR created,
>not real people.
I believe it is due to the realism of the characters that the books
became so popular.
Well, back to the Harry/Snape hate problem. These two people will
inevitably meet again. Given their characters I can hardly imagine
either one of them to apologize and make peace with the other. It
would be great, if Harry found the strength in him to do so, but I
believe at this point of the series this is wishful thinking. Snape
has just climbed in Harry's Most Hated People list in spot 2, right
after Voldemort, but above Draco Malfoy, Umbridge and many people
more.
So, what is going to happen? I think these two are set up for a major
clash. I can imagine that Snape taunts Harry until he leashes out
violently. Maybe even with a Cruciatus. (See my original post why I
think so.)
Would JKR write that? Yes, because it is important what Harry thinks
afterwards. I can picture him being disgusted with his own doing. And
he will realize that violence does not help him in any way. He will
not have fun seing someone in pain, and it will not ease his own pain
about Sirius' death. This could be an important step in Harry's
maturation. To recognize one's own mistake is a very important lesson.
Would JKR write about physical violence? Yes. Injuries in the
wizarding world are not a big deal. They can be mended very quickly
and rarely have consequences (Moody is an exception). Especially
Snape has been depicted in scenes of bodily violence before. He
confronts Quirrell in PS, he duels with Lockhart in CoS, he throws
Harry out of his office in OotP. He is wounded by Fluffy in PS, he
receives a head wound in GoF and fights with James in OotP. JKR is
certainly not afraid of letting him suffer.
Harry hurting Snape would also tie in nicely with the whole 'James-
the-bully' subplot. Harry feels sorry for Snape when he peeks into
his pensieve. He doesn't want to be like his father. If he did
something to Snape, he would prove Snape's constant 'You are just
like your father' right. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Can you
imagine how disgusted Harry would be with himself if that would
happen?
Harry's realization of what he is able to do when angry is in my
opinion a much better basis for a peace with Snape than his anger at
the end of book 5. After all it is Snape who says in the Occlumency
lesson that one must learn to control one's emotions. See the common
ground?
Clio,
who thinks Harry is too young to be a second Ghandi yet.
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