Possession

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Feb 12 15:50:20 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 90774

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt" 
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> The Voldemort in the books consists of at least two entities within 
> the same physical body - let's call them Voldy!Sally and Voldy!Tom 
> and the combination Lord Voldemort.
> Voldy!Sally is the disembodied entity that was placed in the 
> Chamber by Salazar, lying in wait for any unwary individual who 
> happened to drop in.
> Voldy!Sally is not a person; it is easier to think of  it as a 
> force for evil. Voldy!Sally *needed* a physical body to carry out 
> Salazar's noble  work.
> He got Tom.

<snip>
> Dumbledore knows all this, or at least has strong suspicions.
> Voldy!Sally is just a force; it is an  aspect of Salazar, it does 
> not have a mind to change, it cannot repent. But Voldy!Tom can, and 
> if DD can get  through to what remains of Tom and somehow persuade 
> him to break the partnership, to resist the urgings of Voldy!Sally, 
> then it will lead to a split that may result in the destruction or 
> weakening of the whole.

Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Fascinating idea, Kneasy!!  See questions below.

> DD,  being the daft old duffer that he is, does not think in terms
> of killing and destruction, he thinks in terms of repentance and 
> redemption. To trot out an old quote, "There is no such thing as a 
> bad boy." Tom can be saved but only if Tom *chooses* to be saved. 
> ****To make the wrong choice leads to the "thing worse than death" 
> in his  book. And Harry  has shown Tom how to do it.*** [Emphasis 
added by SSSusan.]
> 
> (Will Harry have to repeat the lesson? There's a thought. Harry 
> tempted, re-possessed and then making the choice that is being 
> offered to Tom. Possibly the first real choice he has had in the 
> series - everything else has been decided for him by others....


Siriusly Snapey Susan:

Kneasy, I'm not sure if I agree with all of this but, as usual with 
your theories, it is well thought-out and well-explained.  I do have 
questions about these last two paragraphs.  Can you please flesh 
these out a little more?  In particular:

1) What precisely do you mean when you say making the wrong choice 
leads to the "thing worse than death" and that Harry has SHOWN Tom 
how to do it?  

2) Can you describe what you're referring to in the last paragraph I 
snipped?  Repeating what lesson?  What first real choice?

I'm not trying to be dense [really!]; I would like to understand more 
fully.

Merci,
Siriusly Snapey Susan







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