getting wands back - Nitpick Hagrid

theultimatesen senderellabrat at aol.com
Sat Feb 14 16:58:54 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 90947

> > Steve:
> > > As far as his expulsion, I think the headmaster and Board of 
> > > Governors can fix that, but there seems to be a criminal record 
> > > too. Until the Ministry holds a formal hearing and officially 
> > > reverses Hagrid's status there will always be a cloud hanging 
over
> > > him.

> > Sarah:
> > Even if there is a hearing to formally clear Hagrid ... isn't a 
> > qualified wizard.  Not an OWL or NEWT to his name.
> > 
> > Imagine Hagrid getting a new wand and attending lessons with the
> > third years.  He and Dennis Creevy could study 
together ...edited...
> > 
> > Sarah

> bboy_mn:
> 
> True Hargrid doesn't have documented qualifications like he would 
get
> from his O.W.L. test, but he is an adult wizard with well over 50
> years experience, and while not necessarily great, he doesn't seem 
to
> lack magic talent. 
> 
> In my view, having your OWL qualifications is like having a high
> school diploma,  both are important for getting a job, but people 
who
> don't have high school diplomas (or OWLs) still get jobs, and many
> become very successful and respected in life by applying their
> specialized talents. In Hagrid's case, he has managed to use his
> talent with animals to become Keeper of Grounds & Keys, as well as
> Game Keeper, and let's not forget, he's now a Professor at the 
school.
> Seems to have done quite well without his OWLs.
> 
> I guess what I'm getting at, is that I don't think Hagrids lack of
> OWLs affects his ability to do magic. Given that he was expelled and
> that there was a cloud of criminal activity hanging over him, he is
> specifically NOT allowed to do magic. This is not by general rule of
> law, but because there is a specific legal order forbidding him from
> doing so.
> 
> I speculate that if he was formally cleared, there would be nothing
> from stopping him from getting a new wand, and performing magic 
freely
> and openly. Once again, he IS an adult, and his magic skill are more
> than adequate for the job he does. In addition, in over 50 years of
> living at the school, he has probably picked up more than a bit of
> magical knowledge and experience.
> 
> We won't really know until it is resolved in the storyline, but I
> think, Dumbledore and Hagrid need to get off their lazy butts and 
get
>  the ruling against Hagrid reversed.


Me:

Something just occured to me. What if it's got nothing to do with the 
ruling or clearing his name or any of it. What if its the fact he's 
part giant?

Sen






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