Apparition + Floo WAS Re: Apparition & Fidelius

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 91047

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, anneli lucas <annelilucas at y...>
wrote:
> Dhyana wrote:
> <snip> I also noticed that nobody used floo powder to
> travel to and from the house, but they did use it to
> communicate with each other. <snip>
> 

> (Elihu):
> <snip>In GF, we learn that the Gryffindor fire is
> connected to the network, and can be used for
> communication; Black knew it, in fact. 
>
 
> Anneli:
> I have a problem with floo and apparition.  If people's houses ... 
> can be entered by anybody by floo, and people can apparate willy 
> nilly all over the place, surely burglary would be a big problem?  
> ...edited...
>
> ... if only public buildings and outdoors could be apparated into 
> (... restricting who apparates into a certain place), and have
> time-restrictions on the floo network so your house....  It seems
> incredibly insecure otherwise.
> 
> Anneli
> 

bboy_mn:

Two points, I want to make. First, is that the owners and occupants of
every wizard's house are armed. If you are foolish enough to break
into the Weasley's home, you would risk facing at least half a dozen
wand tips. 

Certainly, if real-life burglers knew every person over the age of 11
was carrying a gun, the would be far less likely to break into houses. 

This brings up an additional point, your own home is not that secure.
You can lock the doors a thoroughly as you want, but access to your
home is still as fragile as glass. Locked doors or no locked doors, a
theif can break a window and he is in. The drawback of course is that
breaking windows makes noise. The point is, the even the most secure
middle class home is really not all that secure, but they somehow
still manage to avoid being robbed. 

A locked home, doesn't stop burglars; it's primary purpose is to
reduces temptation for those who might break in on a whim; like kids
out raising hell and getting into mischief. A real theif can by-pass
almost any protection.  Using Hogwarts as an example, you can't Floo
or Apparate in, but there doesn't seem to be anything to stop a 'evil
doer' from walking in through the front gate.

It doesn't make much sense for the average wizard's home to be any
more secure than the average muggles home. However, magic theives have
several advantages, all quite logically having to do with magic. They,
generally speaking don't have to 'break' into a home. They can just
apparate in. Note that Apparation, doesn't appear to be silent. Of the
examples we have, only Dumbledore and Voldemort appear to be able to
apparate in close to silences. Everyone else makes some degree of
popping or cracking sound. So, unless you are really really good,
apparating or Flooing into a home will make some noise.

But who says a thief has to break in? If they are after small valuable
 objectd, they could simply say 'accio gold', and it would come
zooming out. But, of course, if doing so created a disturbance in the
house, they also risk several angry magic folk armed with wands coming
out of the house after the gold.

I would think the most vulnerable places would be wizard businesses.
Logically, they have the most to steal. They would have all the goods
sold in the store available to anyone who might pop in in the middle
of the night. However, most real-life stores take more precausions
than the average home. They have re-enforced glass, iron gates they
close in front of the doors and windows. They have video surveillance
and burgar alarms, etc....

My second point is that we know anti-apparation charms exist. Hermione
repeatedly tells us that Hogwarts is protected, and in OotP,
Dumbledore uses an 'Anti-Disapparation Jinx' to bind the captured
Death Eaters in the Death Chamber at the Ministry of Magic.

Given the wizard world's lack of electronic serveillance and
electronic burglar alarms, or any other electronic devices for that
matter, it seems quite reasonable that they would have magical
equivalents.

It would seem a reasonable speculation that before a business owner
retires for the night, he activates a magical alarm system, and casts
or activates charms to prevent entry by stealth; seals his fireplace
against entry, and casts anti-apparation charms. 

I think we can assume that Apparation has been around for a long time,
and that protections against apparation have been around for nearly as
long.

So, yes, I can see that wizard houses could be vulnerable, but I also
have to believe magic folk have solved this vulnerability a long time
ago and through a variety of means. 


Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn