Twins, time turner, the same person?

lizvega2 lizvega2 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 16 21:06:43 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 91081

I've been thinking a lot about Fred and George lately. The first 
time we meet them, at Kings Cross Station in PS- They yell at Molly 
because she apparently mixed them up, but then just as "Fred" is 
going through the barrier, he yells that she had it right the first 
time. But, she didn't know the difference, she just said, "Oh, sorry 
George"- or something like that. I don't understand how a mother can 
mix up her children, even if they are identical twins. I've met 
twins, loads of them, and after a little while, the differences 
become apparent. But, Molly couldn't do that after thirteen years? I 
started thinking about how odd that was after re-reading OOP- The 
scene where Ron gets his prefect badge and Molly says "That's 
everyone in the family"- and then George and Fred smirk at her for 
forgetting them. Why do these two not seem like 'real' Weasleys? 
Their attitude, personalities, goals, etc. all seem different from 
any of the other hundred Weasley's. The one similarity appears in 
their treatment and opinion of the 'baddies'- they hate the ministry 
and lv and percy all the same. - and they seem pretty intent on 
writing percy off- whereas the rest of the family may be up for 
forgiveness. 

In GOF- just as they get to the World Cup, Mr. Weasley sends HRH off 
to collect water, the muggle way, and he and Ginny and Fred and 
George attempt to collect wood and light a fire. When HRH gets back, 
Fred and George 
remark that HRH "Have been ages"- and Ron says they met a few 
people. 

How much time did HRH really take in collecting the water? I can't 
remember now, but the reason I ask is because- just then Ludo Bagman 
walks by and the twins make their bet. Let's see, they bet their 
entire life savings that Krum would catch the snitch but that 
Ireland would win. Have we ever seen a quidditch game that had the 
same result? Ever? I haven't read Quidditch through the ages, but 
could someone tell me if there's any mention of a game like this one 
in the past? Normally a seeker would wait to catch the snitch 
until it would ensure a victory, but Krum didn't. His reason is 
irrelevant, but the twins knew it. I don't see how anyone can doubt 
that F&G knew what was going to happen at the game, it's just too 
much of a long shot. Ginny says in OOP that with the twins, "You 
start thinking anything's possible". Hmmm.. Anything? Like using a 
time turner at the world cup to see what the outcome would be, so 
maybe they could get a few extra galleons toward their joke shop 
fund? At 
that point no one knew that Harry would win and give them his 
winnings. 

I'm re-reading all of the books right now looking for evidence and 
clues about Fred and George's identities. I wonder if there are 
really two of them. A time Turner could allow a future and former 
self to interact couldn't it? I'm still forming this theory, but has 
anyone got any theories about what role Fred and George will play in 
the upcoming books? Or, what it would mean if there wasn't really a 
Fred and George, but just one brother? I don't know what I'm trying 
to say here. My head hurts. 

LizVega, who knows something is wrong with the twins. 





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