How will Harry win in the end? (long)

[lizvega2]

No: HPFGUIDX 91187

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, gsanderson at c... wrote:
> I've been reading through the second world war thread and wanted 
to 
> gather my thoughts on this end game that will play out over the 
next 
> 2 books.  Harry has been set up with the prophesy and vague clues 
to 
> what must happen at the end of the septology - either he or LV 
must 
> die.  
> 
> The question I've been pondering is that if Harry will win, what 
> weapon will he use to defeat LV?  Will he kill LV with the AK 
curse?  
> I don't think so - it doesn't seem right that Harry would use an 
> unforgivable curse that must be backed by hatred and evil to 
work.  
> So then, what will he use?
> 
> In the end-game of OOP, Dumbledore tells Harry that his emotions 
are 
> his biggest strengh and that there is a room in the department of 
> mysteries that contains the power Harry has in huge quantities.  
To 
> me this points to a new weapon that Harry must learn to harness 
over 
> the next 2 books to be victorious.  What will that be?  We do have 
> some clues...
> 
> Harry's eyes will play a part.  They come from his mother who was 
> obviously full of love and goodness as we witnessed in the 
Pensieve 
> scene with Snape and the fact that she died to save him.
> 
> We have seen throughout the books that Harry gains courage from 
the 
> Phoenix song.  (ok this sounds sappy)  This is very similar, in my 
> mind to the strength Harry gains from his friends and "family" 
> (Weasley's, Lupin, Hermione, etc...).  What would be the strength 
he 
> would gain from true love (this sounds like the Princess Bride)?
> 
> I think that for Harry to win, he will need to fashion a new 
weapon 
> made up of the emotions that LV cannot stand.  DD also told LV 
during 
> their battle that there are things worse than death.  Then later 
said 
> that LV hated anything to do with love/emotions.  Is that the key 
to 
> the weapon that will kill him?  I think so.
> 
> I think the clues are pointing to 2 things - the second world war 
> which must be won by the Order and Harry's personal battle with 
LV.  
> I'm not sure that all the clues we're getting are going to the 
same 
> thing.  For example, Bill Weasley's future...does it lie on the 
same 
> path as the door in the Department of Mysteries?  I think they're 
> separate things.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Kristen

LizVega here:

I agree with the theory that Harry will not use AK to kill LV, 
partly because, like you said, I don't think he'll be able to 
harness the joy in killing that is required to perform the spell. 
But, I also don't think that Harry and LV will use wands during 
their battle. We saw in GOF what happens when their wands meet- if 
wands are required, perhaps one of them will use someone else's 
wand. True, wizards don't receive the best results when using 
another's wand, but as powerful as LV and Harry (Will become)are, 
it's an option. 

I also agree that the key to defeating LV for good is the emotion 
that Harry has in huge quantities that DD referred to, some say it's 
love, but I don't think so. It seems like a cop-out, and horribly 
obvious, not jo's style at all. I've always wondered whether its' 
the 'essence' of magic. The very thing that connects Harry to the 
wizarding world, and all its' inhabitants.

As far as the order needing to win in addition to Harry defeating 
LV, I think the two work interdependent of each other. If Harry 
defeats LV, then all of his misguided psycho followers will just 
whither back into the wood work, like they did before.