Marauder's Map/Time Turner in POA

[dorapye]

No: HPFGUIDX 91413

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sawsan_issa" 
<sawsan_issa at e...> wrote:
> 
> > Deb in NJ wrote:
> > One question (okay, two):
> > 
> > In POA, since Harry and Hermione repeated the three hours before 
> > Sirius was captured--wouldn't they have appeared on the 
Marauder's 
> > Map TWICE? When Lupin saw the map in his office, why didn't he 
see 
> > the Harry & Hermione lurking outside as well as the ones who 
went 
> > into Hagrid's hut with Ron?
> > 
> > And, two, since Snape saw the Marauder's Map himself, why didn't 
he 
> > see Peter Pettigrew on it?? (Unless the Shrieking Shack is off 
the 
> > edge of the map and Scabbers was already beyond the border when 
Snape 
> > saw the map? That's the only explanation I can think of, 
although 
> > don't I remember him seeing Sirius and that's why he knew Lupin 
was 
> > going "to" him?
> > 
> > Thanks, and sorry if this has been brought up--the archives are 
huge 
> > and I could have missed it!
> > 
> 
> 
> Sawsan here;
> I was just rereading PoA myself (my honest to goodness favorite of 
the
> series) and I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I could
> think of is that I think the Marauder's Map is limited to the 
Hogwarts
> grounds and castle, which possibly excludes the Forest and the 
Shack.
> The Shack is in Hogsmeade, even though it is close, it would not 
be on
> the map. 
> 
> Just my way of making sense of it.

dorapye:
Yeah, this is my way of making sense of it too. When we are first 
introduced to the map, it is described as showing the "Hogwarts 
castle and grounds" . Fred and George then go onto explain to Harry 
where the passage from behind the one-eyed old crone leads...I take 
this to mean it cannot be deduced from the map because Hogsmeade is 
not shown on the map...

And Deb, I think, yes, Harry and Hermione do appear twice on the map 
when they are time-travelling.  When Snape looks at the map, he is 
following Lupin's movements, HRH and Scabbers will be off the map 
because they are in Hogsmeade at the Shrieking Shack at this moment; 
however Harry and Hermione, if Snape had looked for them, would be 
visible on the map, on the edge of the Forbidden Forest, with 
Buckbeak. Snape assumes that Lupin is using the passage to admit 
Sirius to the school grounds or to meet with him secretly, so Snape 
dashes after him....

Now when Lupin looks at the map, he spots Peter Pettigrew with Ron 
and Sirius, going down the Whomping Willow passage, and Harry, 
Hermione and Crookshanks following them....but does he also notice 
the Harry and Hermione shown at the edge of the forest?

This leads us into the dark territory of the ESE!Lupin theory, I 
believe....so I'll leave it there!

dorapye, who, like Sawsan, loves PoA the best