Faking Sirius' Death?

[sawsan_issa]

No: HPFGUIDX 91491

> :: Entropy :: wrote:
> I've been going over the whole "Sirius is dead" thing for a while, and
> wanted to put everything together. Besides JKR's ominous quote that no
> one comes back once they are "properly dead" (what is properly dead,
> anyway?), I've been trying to look for clues as to whether Sirius
> actually may or may not return.  It just doesn't seem right, in a
> literary sense, to spend all of this time on a character and then
> trash him before he is fully drawn.
> 
> So, we know that Peter has told Voldemort that Sirius is an Animagus
> ("Voldemort will know all about me being an Animagus by now, Wormtail
> will have told him..."). So, as Sirius says, his "big disguise is
> useless".  Meanwhile, Lucius has seen Sirius in his Animagus form at
> King's Cross station.  He can now be sure that the Weasleys, Moody,
> Lupin, et al are in contact with Sirius and know of his whereabouts.
> It's just a matter of time before Lucius leaks his information to the
> Ministry and/or Voldemort. This puts them all in great danger.  And
> clearly, Dumbledore's plan of Sirius hiding out at Grimmauld Place
> indefinitely is not working for Sirius.  This is not a long-term
> option for him. He is bored, restless, and sure to become increasingly
> reckless if this is allowed to continue.
> 
> This means that Dumbledore and the Order need to come up with a new
> way of hiding Sirius. How?  
> 
> Perhaps by  faking his death.  We have already seen, In Book 1(ch. 8,
> pg. 138 US ed.) "a sleeping potion so powerful it is known as the 
> Draught of Living Death", which can be brewed by combining asphodel
> and  wormwood.  So, we know that it is possible to fake Sirius' death
> in a convincing and realistic way (lovely that Snape will likely be
> the one to brew this one!).  
> 
> Has Sirius been weighing this option for some time? When Harry asks if
> he can stay with Sirius at Grimmauld Place if all does not go well at
> his trial, and he is kicked out of Hogwarts, Sirius' answer is "We'll
> see."  Given that Sirius would love to have some company, not to
> mention someone who is the closest thing he'll ever get to his old bud
> James, you would think that Sirius would jump at the possibility.  But
> if Sirius knew of Dumbledore's protection at Privet Drive, his answer
> would be a definite "no". Even if he had doubts about how comfortable
> Harry would be at Grimmauld, his answer might be something along the
> lines of "Well, if you think you'd be happy here..."  But he gives
> Harry a noncommittable answer; exactly the answer one would give if he
> knew he wasn't going to be around, but couldn't let on.
> 
> Now, on to the duel between Bellatrix and Sirius in the Dept. of
> Mysteries. Of course,  we are all aware of  the mysterious second
> curse.  We all know that Bellatrix cast the first, which Sirius
> dodged. But then "the second jet of light hit him squarely in the
> chest." Not "Bellatrix's curse", not even a "green jet" which would
> surely be an AK and would seal Sirius' fate. Just "a second jet".  
> Given that Dumbledore has already appeared, and all of the Death
> Eaters except for Bellatrix have begun to run for it, who is it that
> took the time to stop running from Dumbledore to cast a curse at
> Sirius while he was already being held off by Bellatrix?  Perhaps it
> wasn't one of the Death Eaters, but an OOP member, simply giving
> Sirius a convenient nudge.  
> 
> After Sirius takes his long, dramatic arc through the veil, Lupin is
> the one to tell Harry that Sirius is surely gone (There's nothing you
> can do, Harry...It's too late, Harry...").  How does Lupin know what
> the veil is? How in the world would a werewolf (the most outside of
> outsiders) have any idea what is going on in the Department of
> Mysteries? He wouldn't, unless he was given knowledge of the veil
> beforehand.  
> 
> Anyway, I'm still working out bits and pieces of this.  Some things
> won't be answered until much later (like, "where is Sirius' body?" and
> "how quickly could the Order put the plan into effect when they found
> they had to run to the MOM to save Harry?").  But I do think this is
> the Order's best way of keeping Sirius hidden and safe. 
> 
> As they say, fire away...
> 
> 

Sawsan here:
Entropy, what you  have explained is well thought out and I love it. I
am worried, however, at JKR's reaction to killing Sirius. She was
depressed that she did it; which leads me to believe that he is dead,
however, you are quite right about it not being complete enough. I
have thought about it as well. The thing i thought of was this; what
if death was like Azkaban? Sirius, in human form, would have never
escaped it, but as a dog, he could. I know dogs and everything else
living dies, but we do not know much about the veil. My thought is
that the veil is not death itself, but  perhaps a porthole. I don't
think everyone whoever died in the WW had been thrown into the arch of
the veil. Maybe since Sirius fell through as a human, he might be able
to come out as a dog? Too far fetched I know, but it occurred to me
when I was rewatching an old Brad Pitt movie called "Cool World."
There are lots of possibilities, that was just one I thought of
because of watching the movie and reading PoA at the same time. I
would love to think Sirius is going to come back; but I do not think
he will. His death is, however, very strange indeed. JKR seems to
count him as really dead, though, so I don't want to get my hopes up. 

Sawsan
who cries whenever she rereads Sirius's death.