Order Headquarters
Freeman, Louise Margaret
lfreeman at mbc.edu
Tue Feb 24 15:13:13 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 91543
Carol:
>>Since Kreacher is
apparently bound to remain in the house of the family he served until
the last member is dead (or has chosen to do so out of loyalty to his
old mistress), and Kreacher is revealing secrets about Sirius, it
would be obvious to the Malfoys that Sirius is also at 12 Grimmauld
Place. Since they also know (I'm not sure how) that Sirius is in the
Order, it wouldn't take much to figure out that 12 Grimmauld Place is
also the Headquarters of the Order.<<
I thought I remembered an early description of the charm that said something
like "Voldemort could have looked right through the Potters' window and not
known they were there." So it is entirely possible that the DE Black
relatives have staked out #12 Grimmauld any number of times, but never seen
anything, and therefore given up on that approach. (or turned their
attention towards finding the secret-keeper, as Voldemort apparently did
when hunting Harry's parents.) Perhaps, even if they found a way in, they
would be deluded into believing there was no one there. (Hmm... could the
Order ambush them while they were tromping through the "empty" house?)
I have assumed the Fidelius Charm would protect against *any* clue that
could give away the secret... after all, it does you little good to hide
your address if your enemy can see you going to and from or intercept an owl
addressed to you. In fact, I think that charm might have been the reason
Umbridge "missed" Sirius the first time she caught him in the fire... most
of him was still at the secret location which the charm prevented her from
knowing.
It would be very interesting to see what would happen if a non-secret keeper
*did* try to give the information to someone; for instance if Harry tried to
tell Neville, "The Order of the Phoenix Headquarters is at #12 Grimmauld
Place" To my recollection, we haven't seen anyone attempt such a thing.
Would Harry be struck dumb if he tried to speak it? Have the quill not work
if he tried to write it? Would Neville be rendered incapable of
understanding the words? Or would something more insidious happen,
incapacitating or even killing teller or hearer?
For that matter, would the outsider even be prevented from knowing that
there IS a protected Secret? Could Neville be told by Harry "I have some
information that I can't give you because of the Fidelius Charm?" That
alone might be helpful information to an enemy. Furthermore, can someone in
on the secret tell an outsider who the secret keeper is or is that also
protected information? Was Harry told that Dumbledore was the Order's secret
keeper before or after he read the note with the address?
Louise, who thinks this darn Fidelius charm complicates things as much as
the Time-Turner.
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