Zabini and Nott

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No: HPFGUIDX 91625

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 
<justcarol67 at y...> wrote:

> OTOH, "weedy" suggests much the same thing as "stringy" and
> is definitely applied to Theo, so the Thestral boy at least equally
> likely to be him.

"K"

Absolutely. I do believe it's very possible Nott is the boy who saw 
the thestrals. Weedy and stringy are pretty much the same in my book.


Carol:
>Theo is also named in the sorting ceremony, though
> not being at the end of the alphabet (and not having a fancy name), 
>he doesn't stand out like Blaise. He's thrown in with a cluster of 
>other students, several of whom we've already met: Moon (who's 
>Moon?), Nott, Parkinson, Patil and Patil, and Perks, Sally-Anne (SS 
>121, Scholastic ed.). Sally-Anne Perks, like Blaise Zabini, has her 
>full name listed, but we haven't heard a peep from either her or 
>Blaise since the Sorting ceremony. Theo, on the other hand, is 
>specifically pointed out by Hermione in OoP--and his father (or 
>grandfather) is one of the Death Eaters arrested with Malfoy at the 
>MoM. So whether or Nott Theo is "the good Slytherin" or the boy who 
>saw Thestrals (and I think he's the latter, at least), I'll bet 
>every knut I earn this year that he'll
> be in the next book, quite possibly as a member of the DA. (Since 
>I'm not paid in knuts, that's a safe bet, right?)

"K"

Theodore Nott is indeed mentioned in the books but then he is seen in 
the company of Draco and we know his father and possibly his 
grandfather are DE's. He does seem more connected with the DE side of 
Slytherin. However, it is possible he is the thestral-boy and those 
DE activities don't excite him very much.

JKR does have a way of mentioning a name and bringing it up later. I 
think she'll do that with Blaise.

I would like to think there are many kids in Slytherin who are good. 
Having said that, I don't want to  find out Sirius or James was a 
Slytherin. That crowd can stay in Gryffindor. I want to see some 
Slytherin comtemporaries of Snape who have been fighting evil. I'm 
hoping Draco can pull away from the influence of his father. Maybe 
I'm asking for too much.
  
Carol - Message 91604  
 
>The Slytherin boy isn't named in the Thestrals scene because Harry
>doesn't know who he is yet. That scene occurs on page 445; the 
>library scene occurs on p. 583. So it's quite possible, and IMO 
>highly probable, that they're the same boy.


"K"

I believe this is the only thing I disagree on. I think the author 
made a point of not giving us his name for a reason and I don't 
believe it's because Harry doesn't know him yet.

It's the way Hagrid is interrupted. JKR doesn't want us to know who 
he is. Even though Harry might not have known Nott's name at the 
time, it wouldn't have mattered if Hagrid would have said 'Nott'. 

Personally, I don't worry about flints and I don't stand around 
picking out those things which just don't seem to fit. I 
find it takes away from the joy of the books. However, it is a bit 
irritating that Harry wouldn't know who Theodore Nott was after all 
those years of having classes together. Still, I won't dwell on that 
part.

Well, the stringy-thestral-boy bears a resemblance to 
Snape and I think there's a reason for that. I just want to know who 
it is. 

"K"

~who sees clues in just about everything~