Cedric and Pettigrew (was Re: Faking Sirius' Death?)

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Feb 25 17:13:25 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 91640

Pippin (me) previously:
> So IMO, an Order member fired the curse that pushed Sirius
 through the veil. That's why he looked surprised...just like 
Cedric, and probably for the same reason--he recognized the 
killer and it was someone he thought was a friend.<
> 
> Eustace_Scrubb queried:
> 
> Well, I understand your position, though I'm more apt to use 
Occam's Razor and say it was Bellatrix with AK in the 
Department of Mysteries.
> 
> But my question relates to the above--are you suggesting that 
Cedric recognized Pettigrew and thought he was a friend?<


Nope, I'm suggesting that Peter didn't kill Cedric. In any case 
Cedric couldn't have recognized him. Peter was hooded and 
Harry himself didn't recognize him until later. I'm suggesting that 
someone else was in the graveyard.


Harry hears the words, "Kill the spare" from directly overhead, 
meaning Wormtail is still holding Voldebabe.  Next, Harry hears 
the swishing noise and a voice screeches Avada Kedavra to the 
night. So do we imagine that fumble-fingered Wormtail managed 
to swish a  wand out of his pocket before putting Voldebabe 
down, or that he put him down and took out the wand,  all while 
Cedric was politely standing there waiting to be murdered?

And look at the wand echoes:
spell/caster/echo

==The QWC==
conjuring the Dark Mark/Barty Crouch Jr/Dark Mark

==The Graveyard==
Avada Kedavra/?/Cedric
wand light/Peter/ no echo
ropes conjuring/Peter/no echo
fire lighting/Peter/no echo
grave dust/Peter/no echo

==Voldemort draws the wand that killed Cedric from his 
pocket==

Peter thrown against the tombstone/Voldemort/no echo
crucio/Voldemort/screams
silver hand conjuring/Voldemort/silver hand
crucio/Voldemort/screams
making Harry bow/Voldemort/ no echo
crucio/Voldemort/screams
imperio/Voldemort/no echo
  

Not every spell leaves an echo. But conjuring does.  What 
happened to the echo of the conjured ropes?

Did Peter conjure the ropes wandlessly, as Quirrell did in Book 
One? If he could do that, why didn't he do it in the Shrieking 
Shack, and escape from Sirius and Lupin? Did Peter use 
Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric, then immediately switch to 
another ? Bertha's? Or did Peter never have Voldemort's wand at 
all?

Occam's razor suggests he wasn't alone.

Lupin with Voldemort's wand in the Graveyard

Pippin






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