Cedric and Pettigrew (was Re: Faking Sirius' Death?)

[annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 91787

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:

> 2. Somebody informs the interested parties, which probably means DD and
> the Order, but let's not forget that the rest of the WW heard almost
as quickly.
> Who? Who was there and got the word out?

Annemehr:
I don't know how the WW at large found out, but since OoP I wonder if
DD hadn't had one of those "reliable methods of communicating" with
the Potters, or some sort of trouble detector.  In a world with
sneakoscopes and foe glasses, and magic two-way mirrors, I would think
he would have.

I wonder if DD's watch with the twelve hands told him that Lily and
James were dead and Harry was alive.  I wonder if he could have had a
hand for Voldemort, too.

Kneasy:
> 3. So far as we know, Hagrid (sent by DD?) is first on the scene.
> Why Hagrid? Wouldn't an Auror be more logical given that the Potters
were a 
> known target of Voldy and his DEs?

Annemehr:
Dumbledore wouldn't send anyone from the Ministry.  Hagrid is someone
DD would trust with his life, and handily enough, stunners (and who
knows what else) bounce right off him.  He might have sent *only*
Hagrid because of the trust factor, too.


Kneasy:
> 4. Sirius arrives. He later states that he went to check up on Peter
and found
> him gone, so he then went to the Potter house, saw the wreckage and
their 
> bodies.
> 
> 5. He immediately suspects Peter - *but tells no-one!*
> Come on! Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Annemehr:
I think it's because he saw no point to it.  I think the only people
left alive who knew there *was* a secret-keeper were DD, Sirius and
Peter, and Sirius never saw DD before he was thrown into Azkaban. 
Perhaps the silly man expected to have a trial and a chance to
convince DD.

Sirius didn't say anything to Hagrid, because Hagrid didn't know about
any Fidelius Charm IMO, Hagrid only knew the Potters had gone into
hiding.  In the Three Broomsticks in PoA, Hagrid said, "Never occurred
ter me what he was doin' there.  I didn' know he'd bin Lily an'
James's Secret-Keeper."  I can see Sirius not stopping to tell the
whole story just then; he'd probably figure he'd sort it out with DD
later, if he thought of anything at all beyond finding Pettigrew.

Kneasy:
> 6. At the Shrieking Shack Sirius tells us that the DEs in Azkaban
accept 
> that Peter betrayed the Potters. The DEs also assumed that Peter
betrayed
> Voldy, but was now presumed to be dead. 
> So how come it was a secret to the rest of the WW? Why would the DEs
hide
> his role in the affair?

Annemehr:
They had nothing to gain by ratting out a dead man.

As for the rest of your questions, I think there is quite a lot about
this that JKR knows but hasn't written -- stuff she's saving for book
7 probably.  I don't see any flat-out inconsistencies so much as
gaping holes.  :P

Kneasy:
> 
> But things didn't work out quite the way he intended. Tee hee!

Annemehr:
I'm not doing ESE!Sirius or ESE!Lupin for that matter, but that last
statement of yours I can apply to practically everyone in the series
(with just a bit of gender modification as needed)!

Annemehr