Cedric and Pettigrew (was Re: Faking Sirius' Death)
confusinglyso
pjcousins at btinternet.com
Sun Feb 29 20:19:12 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 91826
>Annemehr: in post #91824
>
>Whoa! I never thought of that before, but why not? Voldemort finds
>himself vaporised and wandless, but with one power left to him: that
>he can possess the bodies of others.
>
>But is there a catch? All our information comes from GoF, where LV is
>telling his DEs how he'd survived and come back. Some quotes from ch.
>33, "The Death Eaters":
>
>"His mother died in the attempt to save him -- and unwittingly
>provided him with a protection I admit I had not foreseen....I could
>not touch the boy."
>
>"I remember only forcing myself, sleeplessly, endlessly, second by
>second, to exist....I settled in a faraway place, in a forest, and I
>waited...."
>
>"Only one power remained to me. I could possess the bodies of others.
>But I dared not go where other humans were plentiful, for I knew that
>the Aurors were still abroad and serching for me."
>
>Voldemort finds himself bodiless and helpless, near his
>fifteen-month-old enemy. Would possessing him give him any more power
>than being in vapor form? A fifteen-month-old can certainly hold a
>wand. Alternatively, LV might have hoped to have just killed Harry
>outright, since those he possesses do tend to die.
>
>But this is Harry Potter, whom he cannot touch. If he risked trying
>to possess him, wouldn't it be possible that he'd be comletely
>destroyed by Harry's mother's protection? Could he possibly assume
>that Lily's sacrifice had done what it could, and that he'd be
>invulnerable in his vapor form?
>
>The second quote suggests that LV was perhaps a bit disoriented at
>first -- perhaps he didn't know he had the power of possession right
>away, and the third quote suggests that possessing Harry might be
>dangerous in that he could be discovered by Aurors.
>
>It's a very interesting possibility that LV may have tried to possess
>Harry at Godric's Hollow, but I'm thinking he may not have dared to.
>
>Off the point, but interesting to me, in the third quote LV says that
>the power of possession *remained* to him. Who'd he been possessing
>before he was vaporised, then? It does imply that LV'd been
>possessing people when he still had a body, so when he did it to
Harry
>in the MoM, I guess that was another instance of the same. I still
>wonder how he does that, and what he's doing with his own body at the
>time he's possessing Harry's.
>
>Annemehr
Now confusinglyso (Phil)
The catch is, is LV telling the truth ?
How would LV know he cannot touch Harry ? He must, at least, have
tried to touch or possess him to learn he could not.
We are limited for evidence (facts?) to the words of LV,( can we
believe him?),
and Dumbledore's brief explanations, again while not lies, do not
tell Harry (or us), all necessary details.
I am starting to believe Harry is more likely to absorb skills like
Parcelmouth from LV possessing him, than from a misfiring AK spell.
Phil.
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