[HPforGrownups] Cedric and Pettigrew (was Re: Faking Sirius' Death)

[manawydan]

No: HPFGUIDX 91827

Kneasy wrote:
> If AKs were that destructive, I doubt that there would be any bodies
> lying about after a DE  raid. An AK from Voldy missed Harry in the
> graveyard - it cracked a headstone, but it didn't vaporise the whole
> damn plot.

Maybe it was the latest development from the DE research department - AK
combined with an industrial spell normally used to remove large amounts of
rock in mining and quarrying!

Getting past the whimsy, I think you're suggesting that Voldemort actually
knew that a straight AK wouldn't be sufficient to work on Harry in the way
that it had on Jim and Lil and therefore he tried to up the power in some
way. How did he know that? Did he know more of the prophecy than we thought
he did?

Kneasy:
> as his Press Agent. Fudge is a different matter. At the time he was not
> Minister of Magic. Was he a DE in the raiding party? If he was, would
> he advertise the fact by recounting the tale?

If so, then what's his game? And what happened to the rest of the raiding
party? Theoretically Voldemort's demise shouldn't have thrown his hard
boiled lieutenants into such a panic that they all did a runner. I'm still
not convinced that they were there.

Kneasy:
> Ffred, you're getting as bad as me.

<VBEG>

Kneasy:
> I like the idea that the Longbottoms were there -  it does explain why
> they were later tortured, but why no mention in despatches from the
> front-line?

Can only answer that one elliptically. Possibly they weren't mentioned in
the PS/SS conversation at the very beginning of the book because JKR hadn't
introduced them as characters yet. Possibly they weren't mentioned in the
POA conversation because they weren't present when Hagrid encountered
Sirius, therefore Sirius wouldn't have mentioned them either. Not really
satisfactory, I know...

 Kneasy:
> A key question: when did James and Lily go into hiding? Was it a recent
> development, or did it happen soon after Harry's birth, nearly 15
> months previously? How long determines how widespread the news was that
> they were in hiding and therefore were likely to have a Secret Keeper.

Has to have been recent. IIRC, DD heard from one of his spies in the DEs
that Voldemort had decided that the prophecy related to the Potters and that
was the news that prompted them to go into hiding. Otherwise not only would
it have been noticeable to their friends, but also one would wonder how they
could have played their role in the Order?

Cheers

Ffred

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