Why ole Snapey is a vamp was Re: No fire in the office

Anne Anne-TMC-Rcvg.Campbell at tenethealth.com
Mon Jan 5 11:51:40 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88107

{Pippin}
> 
> My Snape's a vampire theory isn't against Snape at all, if by that 
> you mean an argument that Snape is ultimately against the 
> cause of good. 

{Anne}

(OT: Didn;t mean to take so long to respond...have a nasty addiction 
known as Final Fantasy....oops) Anyhow, back on topic...)

I agree with that statement...but as I said, it isn';t just you per 
se, or another person, but many people who, when theorizing about 
Snape tend to go after theories that put him in a very bad light, and 
most often as the "bad guy". Vampirism in and of itself may not be 
a 'bad' thing in the HP universe (although it obviously carries a 
huge stigmatism with those 'in the know' in the wizarding world), but 
it certainly adds to his already 'evil' reputation--not something 
that at this point really needs to be pounded into the readers' heads 
than is already has been. It would be, whether for ill or good, 
overkill, and although Rowling will make a point time and again 
subtly until she actually wacks you over the head with it, I think 
this theory is more along the lines of a red herring...

{Pippin}

It may be  that being a vampire, or part vampire,  
> he has no innate fellow-feeling towards humans, or human 
> children.  He may have no natural desire to help others and does 
> not get a warm fuzzy feeling inside when he does so. So every 
> good action he does is by an act of will, which by some 
> estimations would make him more moral than a person who is 
> kindly and helpful and never feels any inclination to be otherwise.

{Anne}

And again, I concurre that that would make him even more complicated 
and three dimensional(and admirable that he could see beyond his 
inhuman viewpoint to participate in the WW events), but the thing is 
that he DOES have human emotion, and very intense emotion at that. 
Unfortunately, a lot of it is resentment, anger, even hatred 
(although who he actually hates is up for heated debate...lol). Like 
Harry (who lived in hell while living with the Dursleys), he was a 
victim of abuse. Unlike Harry, it doesn't seem that he escaped it in 
time to NOT have scars, nor does it look like he ever had the chance 
to 'work it out' later in life--so it does color many of his actions 
and reactions. Again, using myself as a reference, I very nearly went 
down his road in regards to other people--but I had other people to 
look out for me at that point, and so managed to escape being a total 
monster as I become an adult. Without them, I could very well have 
been Snape myself...

{Pippin}

Hagrid and Maxime are, as you say, obviously half-giant.  They 
> can't fool anyone but themselves, and Rowling wants us to see 
> that. But what if someone could carry off such a charade 
> successfully, fully accepted by someone like Fudge, who was 
> quite prepared to award an Order of Merlin to Severus? What 
> price would there be for that? Is there another character in that 
> situation?

{Anne}

No, there isn't at the moment. Although you could as easily use 
Snape's spy role in the same context or at least similar. If he's 
faking his allegience to the Death Eaters so that he can be accepted 
and spied upon, and is then found out, there will certainly be a 
horrid price to pay. And if the reverse is true, and he's 
really 'faking it' for Dumbledore, I'm sure the consequences will be 
just as dire in another manner (although not as messy). As for 
the 'stigma' part of being a vampire...well, considering Severus's 
own nature bites him in the ass already....^^;

I would like to see the possibility explored, don't get me wrong, but 
I don't think Snape is really going to be the one saddled with it, if 
for no other reason than because he has so many other things he has 
to work through and survive as a character. And, as someone else 
pointed out, the books are not just about Harry and Snape...there are 
other characters that deserve more time in the spotlight...and a 
good, angstful situation to deal with. Putting it all on Snape is a 
waste of characters, and really does bend to 'cliche' territory. 

Anne
(Who really needs a cup of coffee....^^;) 
Morning all!






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