Why ole Snapey is a vamp was Re: No fire in the office
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Mon Jan 5 23:04:04 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88126
> Kneasy:
> Most readers and watchers of film and TV have very strong
> images of what a vampire is and how a vampire behaves.
>Does Snape fit the profile? Again, I don't believe so.
Then it's odd that so many people have indepently made the
connection.
Kneasy:
> (Oh, and there's a possible alternative explanation for the
> blood sweeties in Honeydukes too. Hags. They just love
> the taste of blood (one gets served raw liver in Diagon Alley).
> They also seem to be fairly common in the WW.)
Well, I've got to go with Hermione here. She said they were for
vampires, and on matters of fact she has never yet been wrong.
Kneasy:
> Canon and near-canon suggests Snape cannot be of the
undead persuasion:
> 1. The Lexicon states that vampires are beasts, not human.
It does??? FBAWTFT states explicitly in the footnote on page xiii
that vampires are creatures which have "being" status. This tells
us two things. They are considered intelligent and they are alive.
Not undead spirits, whatever Muggle legend may relate. Since
as "non-wizarding" people they would presumably be forbidden
to use wands, that would be an powerful motive for Snape to
keep his vampire status secret, would it not?
I don't really see why being a vampire would be too much--not
from Rowling. She is the one who put two monsters in the
castle, two hidden animagi, etc, etc. I wouldn't discount child
abuse as an explanation for Snape's temperament, but does it
have to be the only reason?
Carol wrote:
>> If there are any foils involved, they would reflect
Snape, not the other way around. Sirius, for example,
resembles Snape in more ways than Lupin does, even to details
of physical appearance and a tendency to be angry. Since he's
the less developed characterand appears in fewer books, it
makes sense to have him as the foil to snape rather than the
other way around. As for Lupin, he's just a decent person and
competent teacher who has the misfortune to be a
werewolf and is again out of a job<<
Oh yes! it's the similarity between Lupin and Sirius in
relationship to Snape (and Harry) that first made me suspect that
Lupin might be other than a decent person. <g>
Carol:
> Nope. Snape is sufficiently complicated without adding being a
vampire to the mix. <
This part I don't follow. One might as well say that Hermione is
sufficiently complicated without being Muggleborn . Rowling has
given a great many of her characters conditions which they did
not choose, can't change, and against which there is very strong
cultural bias.
Carol:
>And as I'm sure you'll admit, there are alternative
> explanations for all the "clues" on your list.
Of course! Rowling is much too clever to give us unambiguous
evidence. Snape is a mystery and she is not ready to reveal
everything she knows.
Carol:
>> I just want to know why he joined the Death Eaters and why
he quit and what he's up to now. That's plenty, don't you think?<<
And you don't think being a vampire could have a teensy weensy
bit of something to do with that? <g> I am not saying that being a
vampire is the sole explanation for his bad attitude or that it
gives him an excuse for joining the Death Eaters. That's too
simple. But suppose, as a young man, Snape believed that
wizarding society would never,ever accept or value him for what
he truly is, and that Voldemort and his followers would.
Tempting, I think. And there is plenty of relevance to the real
world.
There seems to be a feeling on the list that only a "monster", a
psychopath like Barty Jr. or a criminal opportunist like
Lucius Malfoy could become a Death Eater. But in the real world
there never seems to be a shortage of morally educated and
supposedly civilized people willing to do dirty work for the Hitlers
and Stalins and the other blood-stained horrors of the past and
present.
Pippin
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