religion in the WW (wasRe: the missing godparent)
quigonginger
quigonginger at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 9 08:43:13 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88292
> > Carol:
> >
> > ...edited...
> >
> > However, I'm surprised that the WW has godparents at all, or that
> > they celebrate Christmas, Easter, have monks, and friars ..., or
> > even .. use such expressions as "My Lord!" and "Bless my
soul!" ....
> > Christianity in all its variants, ..., is a
> > Muggle institution, ...edited...
> >
> > Carol, who knows that JKR can depict her world in any way she
likes,
> > but nevertheless finds the religious elements strange. (I'm not
> > anti-Christian; I just think the WW and the RW should be a bit
more
> > distinct.)
>
>
> bboy_mn:
(lots of insightful info snipped for brevity)
> That would mean that during favorable periods in history, witches
and
> wizard would have been exposed, and indeed converted to the
Christian
> faith. I see no incompatability between the witches and wizards we
see
> in the HP series, and the possibility of Christian faith.
Ginger:
To address both bboy_mn and Carol, let's not forget the influence of
Muggleborns.
I have heard the expression "Oh, my God" from people who deny the
existance of a deity. It is merely an expression common in many
cultures. A Muggleborn attends Hogwarts, uses the expression, and
*poof* it catches on. Anyone remember the "cool" expressions that
went around school at that age? It's like Ron saying "mate"
constantly in OoP.
Muggleborns may also have come from Christian families (or atheistic
families, or Jewish families.....you get the idea). One doesn't have
to leave one's faith behind when changing addresses. It is entirely
possible that, over the centuries, some Wizards have become
Christian. The customs, such as naming Godparents, may have
followed, whether the practicing of the faith did or not.
For all we know, Lily may have mentioned having Godparents to James,
who thought it was a good idea to have someone designated to take
Harry should LV get them. It would have been a wise precaution. Or
Lily may have been a Christian, or of another faith which names
Godparents. Or may have had a friend who was.....The possibilities
are endless.
As for celebrating Christmas, I still think Ron sums it up
best: "Oy! Presents!" Easter? Not as big of a deal, but hey, free
candy is good. Not to mention that the UK celebrates Christmas, so
once again, we have the influence of Muggleborns.
In another thread, people have pointed out that JKR uses familiar
concepts to help us envision things without her having to take pages
to describe them. That may meta-figure in here.
Ginger, who actually used to use the expression "cooby George" cuz it
was cool back then. I still have no idea at all what it meant.
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