Mysterious Prophesies (was genealogy of HP)
Arya
dequardo at waisman.wisc.edu
Sun Jan 11 21:18:08 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88449
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> Geoff:
> I think the question of who can touch the prophecy refers to
> the /initial/ picking up and not later. Voldemort has been thwarted
> because he tried to get it via someone else; this failed because of
> the protection so he lured Harry to the MoM for that purpose. He
> could have got it himself but this would have confirmed that he had
> returned.
>
Arya now:
I keep coming back to the question of *how* those recordings get into the Hall
of Prophesy. I'm convinced it is some magical, automatically generated thing
that when an authentic prophesy is made, a recording then appears int he
hall because it would be impossible to rely on people to report eh occurence
of a prophesy. I don't for one second believe Dumbledore witnessed the
prophesy and then went to report it to the Ministry to ensure an official record
was kept. But, on the other hand, if it isn't told to DoM people by the ones
who witness prophesies, then how does the DoM know the contents of the
prophecies well enough to be able to label them "Dark Lord and (fomerly a
question mark) Harry Potter"?
I got to thinking about this again because I began to wonder about the
"safeguard" on the spheres allowing only those mentioned in a prophesy to
touch it. If the Hall of Prophesy is run in some self-generating way then I can
see the Hall "knowing" the true identity of those, even obliquely mentioned, in
a prophesy as those who shall be rightfully able to pick it up. However, if it is
some DoM wizards cataloguing these prophesies then perhaps they are the
ones who cast a jinx upon the spheres to allow only the Dark Lord or Harry
Potter to pick it up. In this case, then the matter of who can touch the sphere
is not one of truth but of a wizard's interpretation.
And now, this whole thing has me contemplating the nature of the DoM and
all the prophesies kept there. If they are auto-generated, then what's the
purpose? They must have a way somehow of knwoing the contents to be
able to properly label them and correct those labels. But if it's not a real life
witch or wizard, then what's the point? If it is a real live person, then why not
use this person to get the contents? Or--why was there not a recording of
the second prophesy at the end of PoA that foretold the return of the Dark
Lord? In fact, in PoA, Dumbledore seems only but mildly concerned that
Trewlawney made a prediction that night to Harry. He doesn't ask for any
details besides the gloss over Harry first gives. Given the seriousness of the
first prophecy, I would think Dumbledore would be very curious and
concerned about the second prophesy's contents. Then again, maybe that
just lends evidence to the fly/wasp on the wall theory or at least suggests
Dumbledore already knew about it somehow. I wonder if there are any
portraits in her stifling tower?
Arya
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