Vampire/Half Vampire/Schvampire -was all the other vampire Snape stuff

[junediamanti]

No: HPFGUIDX 88501

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "quigonginger" 
<quigonginger at y...> wrote:
> June begins a list of standard vampire traits, of which I will list 
> only the first:
[snip]
> Ginger, shaking her head at herself for butting in on the 
*opposite* 
> side of the stand she normally takes:

June:
That's all right - I promised myself NOT to get involved in this 
debate ever, because I think it's silly.  Look at me now.  Did 
someone at the back of the class whisper "Silly" - I know who you 
are...
 
> In OoP, Arthur takes a Blood-Replenishing Potion every half hour 
(OoP 
> p. 488 US).  Could this be a dropped hint?  Snape "eats" in the 
great 
> hall.  (Rats!  I shouldn't have snipped number 2 of June's 
reasons:  
> vampires don't eat.) 

June:
Shades of Monty Python here:  The Spanish Inquisition - "Our chief 
weapon is fear, and surprise...our two chief weapons are fear, 
surprise and a ruthless devotion to the Pope..."  - I know what you 
mean - I wrote a list on another list today headed "my three ideas" 
and then listed nine ;-)

Hints, hints, NOT evidence.  Give me some evidence.  "Give me a 
reason and I swear I will".  What? Listen to the arguments.


 Like a 3 year old, he picks and moves things 
> around and then proclaims himself "done" and then goes off to his 
> dungeon for a nice replenishing potion.  The other staff knew Lupin 
> was a werewolf and don't comment on his abscences.  Perhaps it is 
the 
> same with Snape.  They know, but don't comment.

That's better.  An arguable rebuttal.  Perhaps he holds the food in 
his mouth and then spits it out in a surreptitious way once he gets 
down to the dungeons, and lets hope he doesn't meet anyone on the way 
down who he has to speak to. 

Or of course his colleagues gossip and nudge each other - "See he's 
at it again..." 
> 
> Too bad they don't have a dog in the hall, it would make it easier 
> with one under the table to whom to feed the scraps.

Okay, perhaps Fang is lurking under the table kindly supplied by 
Hagrid... or Mrs Norris will oblige...

Alternatively maybe he just spits out his food because he has bulimia.

I like the logic but still don't think it holds water.  

I don't think any of it holds water and I have indeed read all the 
earlier fantastic posts on the subject. Fantastic some of them are, 
but I still believe they exist in the realm of fantasy.  Indeed I 
made it my business to read them all back when I joined this list and 
spent a week or two doing that before even posting a word.  But I'm 
talking canon here and  there is no canon evidence for Snape the 
Vampire - there may well be possible clues - if you want to find them 
and then use them towards this theory.  Clues are not canon.  

You can also make this theory work if you keep distorting "generally 
accepted vampire rules" and I'm not prepared to get further involved 
in some nitpicking argument over what is and isn't vampire canon, 
lore etc.  I've listed what I consider to be the general ones, and 
they seem fairly common to books, film and folklore too.  I further 
believe that you can perhaps distort one and on the outside maybe two 
of the issues - but to debunk all that is known and "generally 
accepted about vampires" - sorry no.   I also believe that JKR WILL 
go with the traditional rules on this.  Why?  Because she is writing 
for children and not folklorists.

And a "vampire controlling potion" - well to have one potion 
controlling dangerous magic creatures is unfortunate, to have two is 
sheer carelessness, if I may paraphase Oscar Wilde.  

While not saying there will not be a vampire in the story, nor saying 
that there must not be one either, I still hold true to the central 
core of my argument:

What is the point?  And why do the Vampire!Snape adherents take such 
an insistent approach to it being necessary to the plot and the 
story?  There can be a vampire or not - I don't insist that any of my 
theories and expectations be delivered by the author.  Why should 
they?  I once got a flame review on my fanfic writing because the 
reviewer didn't like the ending.  I reviewed back to say "Hard 
Cheese" just as JKR will have every right to say to me, in the 
unlikely event of Vampire!Snape proving canon and the even more 
unlikely event of me complaining to her.  

> 
> Ginger, who doesn't think Snape is a vampire, but is willing to 
play 
> both sides of the net in debate.

Spoken like a true lawyer!!!  Are you one btw?


June

Still waiting for EVIDENCE...