[HPforGrownups] Dumbledore's Purpose & 7th/3rd Son
Meghan Chalmers-McDonald
frost_indri at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 13 15:50:14 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88586
Hello. My first time posting, tiny intro and then onto to good stuff. I'm Frost, and I'm an artist, though I don't do fan art very often, and the only Harry potter pictures I've drawn are to remind me what I saw the charicters as looking like before I saw the movies.
Ok, enough about me.
"Helen R. Granberry" <helen at odegard.com> wrote:
<snip>
so what's left for him to do, as far as Harry's concerned?
>From Helen (LizardLaugh):
I actually think that Dumbledore's role is the clearest of pretty much
anyone's, at least, from a literary perspective. <<snip>> He's
the wise man. The benevolent grandfather. The Merlin to Harry's young
Arthur. The Gandalf to Harry's Frodo, carrying the weight of the world
on his shoulders.
>>>>>>>>>
But I think it's also very likely that Dumbledore will be dead by the end of the books. Not because his purpose has been filled, but because he would need to die for Harry to grow further as a person, to not always be in DD's shadow, and possibly give him the furthest motivation to kill ol' Snake Eyes.
I think it is possible that DD won't be killed, but I think it is a very likely thing.
Esp. when you're compairing him to Merlin and Gandolf. (Ok, so Merlin didn't DIE, persay, but the tower of silence was pretty much Aurthurs loss of him. And Gandolf came back, but it was a long time before Frodo knew he was alive.)
>>>>>7th/3rd son stuff>>>
PS/SS: knocked out during the wizards chess, misses Harry fighting
Quirrel - his brave moment of sacrifice
- CoS: wall falls between he and Harry, he is left behind with
Lockhart, misses Harry fighting Tom Riddle - his brave moment is his
wand backfiring on Lockhart
- PoA: gets knocked out when Pettigrew escapes, Hermione and Harry go
on to rescue Sirius and Buckbeak - his brave moment is chaining
himself to Pettigrew and trying to get him when he transforms
- GoF: gone in spirit while harry fights the dragon in the first task,
is the person harry has to save in the second, watching the match
while harry finishes the 3rd task and goes to confront Voldemort again
- OoP: addled by the brains in the MoM and misses the battle between
the DE's and the Order, as well as actually seeing Voldy appear in the MoM
>>>
Interesting, but the theory ignores other parts, such as in PoA, Ron's "brave moment" wasn't chaining himself to Peter, but protecting scabbers and his friends, while trying to stand up on a broken leg. He was there at the pivital moment for Harry, when HRH though that they were confronting the one who killed Harry's parents. The rest of it didn't take a lot of courage, but cunning, skill, and a good pair of legs. (which Ron didn't have. THe legs I mean.)
As for OoP, He was in the fight with the DE, thats how his brains got addled in the first place. So he wasn't exactly coherent when the adults showed up. So what if he wasn't with Harry with LV and DD. Neither was anyone else, because Harry ran off after the battle. What matters is that he came with Harry to rescue Sirus, stood up to the Death eaters with them, tried to fight them with Harry, and thusly the scrambled brains.
Ok. Enough outa' me.
Frost Indri
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