Which House were James, Sirius, and Remus in?
Robert Jones
jones.r.h.j at worldnet.att.net
Tue Jan 13 22:15:53 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88616
drjuliehoward mentions the JKR interview I mentioned in my first
post on this topic. I discussed it there and don't have anything to
add.
But here are a bunch of other possible objections to the theory that
can be easily refuted.
(1) How could Harry be the Heir of Gryffindor is James was in
Slytherin? Simple: one's ancestry does not determine which House
you go in one's choices do. So a father can be in one House and
the child in another, and both still be descended from the same
person. (Also remember that the Sorting Hat told Harry that he
would do very well in Slytherin (PS/SS 7). Probably James had the
same dispositions at age 11. Maybe the Hat said the same to James
and he said "Fine.")
(2) We learn throughout OOTP that Sirius' mother considered him
a "blood traitor." Being sorted into Gryffindor would certainly
upset the Black family (which I assume has always been in Slytherin,
considering all the snake emblems around their house at Grimmauld)
and might be enough to label him a "blood traitor." He might be an
automatic Slytherin (like Malfoy just touching the Hat in PS/SS 7)
would Sirius even have time to argue and choose Gryffindor like
Harry did? The basic question is when did he go bad (or
go "good")? At age 11 or before? Wouldn't it be more likely that
he would rebel against his family as a teenager? At age 11 when he
was sorted, he may well have still been under his family's
influence. Harry would be ad exception he would gladly have
rebelled against the Dursleys at 11, but he was mistreated all his
life.
(3) Remus was a werewolf and Slytherin only takes in "purebloods."
Well, Remus was bitten as a child and that does not affect his "pure
blood" ancestry if he had one. Also remember that not all
Slytherins are "pure bloods" LV being the chief example. (LV was
in Slytherin, wasn't he?) A werewolf in Slytherin doesn't seem odd
to me.
(4) James and the boys were not bad and so couldn't be in
Slytherin. Well, no one is saying James and the others were "bad"
(i.e., followers of LV), but only that their cunning and ambition,
not bravery, were defining their character at age 11 when they were
sorted. So too James could hate the dark arts and still be in
Slytherin the dark arts are not what define a Slytherin.
(5) Throughout the books there are passages stating that Harry sees
a boy whom he doesn't know by name but knows is in Hufflepuff or
that he sees a group of Slytherins. How could he know that if he
cannot tell their House by appearance (and so could see which House
James was in in the Pensieve scene)? Simple: he has been having
breakfast, lunch, and dinner with these people for years. He can
see which House table they have been sitting at. So even if he
doesn't know their names or anything else, he knows which House they
are in. Also not that in these passages JKR does not say that Harry
sees someone in a Hufflepuff robe or anything like that just that
he knows which House they are in.
(6) How in POA 8 could Sirius know where the Gryffindor Common Room
was if he hadn't been in Gryfinndor in school? Simple: he had the
Marauder's Map while in school. He probably knew where all the
Common Rooms were. (That James and the boys would even create a map
for marauding might seem like more evidence of Slytherin activity
but Fred and George, and Harry, Ron, and Hermione all happily use
it.)
Bobby
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