[HPforGrownups] Re: Maroon/Ron=DD hypothesis

[Helen R. Granberry]

No: HPFGUIDX 88620

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Helen, I thought that essay about the chess game was brilliant!  I 
bookmarked it to reference while reading books 6 and 7.  (I did 
chuckle when I read your pun.)

You did make a good argument for the Ron=DD connection.  However, 
I'm still looking for a less complex explanation for DD knowing what 
he knows.  For example, I read on one website (I wish I could 
remember where) speculation that DD is part Demiguise.  This would 
give him the ability to become invisible without a cloak and to be 
able to see through an invisibility cloak.  

The piece about the time turner is referenced in Troell's post 
88594.  That post contains a link to the article.  

I will re-read your chess essay and look again at your position for 
Ron=DD.  As I said, rest I find fascinating and think you are onto 
something.  I would not put it past JKR to give us a blueprint in 
book 1 to the rest of the septology.

Julie

>From Helen:

There are other ways Dumbledore can know things even if he's not Ron,
but not quite to the extent that he appears to...  for instance, the
wizarding portraits, being a bumblebee Animagus, the chocolate frog
cards, being a Legilimens, and as you mention, possibly being part
Demiguise (something I hadn't heard or thought of until you mentioned
it)... of course, all of these open up even more questions as to why he
did/did not do certain things. For instance, if he is a Legilimens, how
could he not know that Peter was the traitor during the first war? He
knew Kreacher was lying, why not Peter?  Why didn't he do something? Why
did he let the Potters die?  If he is Ron, he knows he has to do that to
defeat Voldie in the end, but if he's not.... well, that doesn't make
sense. He doesn't know the outcome. He's got the Prophecy, but he still
doesn't have enough to allow Peter to stick around so close to the
Potters. Then, there is the matter of Sirius, and if the MAGIC
DISHWASHER brigade is to be believed, Dumbledore orchestrated the whole
thing. 

So, ok... Dumbledore CAN see through invisibility cloaks... He sure does
give Harry the exact message he needs, on the fly even, in CoS in
Hagrid's hut. He still has to figure out the exact room to stick the
mirror in so Harry can find it in PS/SS. Nothing is ever a surprise with
Dumbledore. The one thing that *does* seem like a surprise - the first
Prophecy - Harry has yet to tell Ron about. In fact, in OotP he talks
about not burdening Ron and Hermione with this knowledge... how
absolutely ironic, considering that Dumbledore didn't want to burden
Harry with that same knowledge.... and the disaster it led to. I think
in reading books 6 and 7, this will be the real test of Ron=DD. Ron
can't know about the Prophecy before he goes back in time. 

I just read Troell's essay on Time Travel... and I found it absolutely
brilliant. It solves the problem I had with the immutable time loop
shown in PoA -- that is, the question of free will, something that is a
huge theme in the books. 

There is one other possibility that does involve time travel, but NOT
Dumbledore as Ron... and that is, perhaps Dumbledore himself is
traveling back in time to advise himself. Perhaps Aberforth Dumbledore
is, indeed, Albus Dumbledore, only a future Albus Dumbledore who has
gone back to tell the current Albus Dumbledore what to do.