Time travel is dangerous! (part 1)

nkafkafi nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 14 12:41:45 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88668

sawsan_issa wrote:
> I dont totally buy into the Ron=DD theory, though it is quite good 
and
> even has a lot of canon support.I agree with the scenario you gave,
> but I don't think that its Ron who is transported. Think for a 
moment
> that Maybe Ron Weasley was born sometime in 1980 and stayed Ron
> Weasley until something happens and causes him to take on the role 
of
> Albus Dumbledore in the Past. That would certainly account for
> Dumbledore's knowledge of things unknown to the people of the past
> don't you think? He lives out his full childhood into adulthood and
> then moves to the past for some particular purpose, which could 
still
> count for the WDID theory. Just because he goes to the past does not
> mean that he needs to change something, but is obligated to do so in
> his life for some particular important purpose. That way Ron Weasley
> does not know anything that is in the future, he only knows what he
> knows as Ron Weasley, but Dumbledore knows everything because he has
> lived in both the past and the future, which basically leaves him 
with
> no present. Sure that theory sucks really, but I am not JKR so it
> would definately be more interesting for her to write it out and 
find
> ways around it if it were true. Dumbledore is a very interesting
> fellow, and I don't put much past him, nor JKR for that matter:P

Neri answers:
I don't totally buy into the Ron=DD either. I was just considering 
possible scenarios and pointing the dangers. As I was trying to say, 
if JKR does it all within the WDID theory, as she did with the PoA 
time travel episode, then she is secured from paradox (as long as she 
take care not to change anything that had already happened, not an 
easy thing in itself). So we can all rest assure that What's Done Is 
Done and there is no inconsistency, except that you have to explain 
why McGonagall told Hermione that wizards killed their past selves 
when this is impossible in WDID. But this is a minor detail. My 
problem with the WDID version of the Ron=DD scenario is totally a 
matter of personal taste. I just hate the idea of DD knowing what's 
going to happen and can't do anything about it. Now, I don't wholly 
understand the scenario you described. If the Ron who was born in the 
80s goes to the past to become DD, then he knows everything that Ron 
knows now, by the end of OotP, plus what he will learn until he goes 
to the past. He still does not know what was the prophecy, for 
example, but he does know that Harry went to the DoM and Sirius died 
there, and he does know that LV is actually Tom Riddle (DD himself 
told him that in CoS, come to think of it. Does this signify 
something?). Do you suggest that Ron goes to the past to become DD 
for some special mission, to "help the past along its way?" This is 
certainly possible. It is even possible that DD himself sent Ron, the 
young version of himself, to the past in order to become DD and carry 
out this special mission. OK, this might be just a tiny bit 
confusing, but it can be made to work using WDID without any 
inconsistency. Only it does not change what Ron knows. He knows about 
many events that are going to happen and he can't prevent them, he 
just has to sit and watch them as they happen. IMHO this part of the 
scenario really sucks, but no account for personal tastes.

Neri 





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