Vampire/Half Vampire/Schvampire -was all the other vampire Snape stuff
jakedjensen
jakejensen at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 14 23:59:35 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88760
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
Kneasy:
> 1. Please state concisely your definition of a vampire.
> 2. List, with canon references, where Snape actually corresponds
> to these.
I have to admit, I never really think of it in this way. As I posted
previously, I think (1) there have been a lot of vampire refs in the
books and (2) some point to Snape. But, in the spirit of it all,
here goes....
Here's what we know about vampires from the canon:
1. Some live in the forest outside Hogwarts. Ergo, vampires must
like some connection with the forest (maybe it's just a good place to
eat or hide or live...something).
2. Quirrell believes that garlic scares them away (or Fred and George
do, at very least).
3. There are vampire bats. It is not clear if these are vampires
turned into bats or just vampire bats (As you have pointed out).
Snape actually corresponds to these in the canon:
1. In SS/PS, Snape meets Quirrell in the woods. Seems a bit odd. In
OoTP, Snape is the one sent to search the forest for Harry and the
gang.
2. We don't know if garlic actually does scare away vampires and we
don't know if Quirrell actually had any garlic on his body or in his
classroom. We do know that Snape is on to Quirrell, though. So, if
he did have garlic on him it would make sense.
3. Snape is described several times throughout the books as a bat
(see #35299 for more details on this).
Here is the question I think of, what are some things that happen in
the books that point toward Snape being a vampire?
1. Snape doesn't seem to mind the coldness of his office in CoS (as I
pointed out in the post that started this all again). If vampires
are undead in JKRs world, then this would make sense. Undead
creatures don't feel temp. (or much else for that matter).
2. Snape receives medical treatment for Filch in PS/SS. Filch is a
pretty dark individual himself. This seems strange. At the time, we
think it is because he is trying to hide the fact he is going for the
stone. Now we know that is not true. So why Filch? Kneasy pointed
out that Filch might be an igor (which I think is quite funny).
Regardless, if he is undead, he might want to avoid Pompy (or she
might find out). It's not to say that Pompy couldn't treat him (in
OoTP, werewolves are treated in a traditional WW hospital), but he
might want to avoid her.
3. Vampires sometimes have pointy teeth or retractable fangs. Snapes
teeth (all yellow and gross) are mentioned numerous times. Will the
person who posted a great breakdown of this chime in? Can't remember
who it was. I'll keep searching the archive.
4. In many myths, vampires and werewolves hate each other (for a
recent rehash, see Underworld...it's okay). The only DADA that Snape
complains to DD about (in the book) is Lupin (who is a vampire).
This, despite the fact that the other DADAs are Quirrell (possessed
by LV), Gilderoy (turns out to be a baddy), Moody (a morphed DE), and
the evil beast that is Umbridge.
5. The exchange between Lupin and Snape in PoA (see my previous post
for more about this) ends with Lupin poorly dismissing Snape's attack
on the map and asking Harry if he can talk about the vampire essay he
assigned. Snape, who should be ragging on Lupin's poor excuse,
instead remains quiet. When the get in the hall, they do not talk
about a vampire essay. In OoTP, Umbridge rehashes the curr. for
Lupin's year and does not mention vampires (but she does mention
everything else). More importantly, vampires are quite a bit more
advanced than the rest of the monsters covered by Lupin in year
three. To me, this is the best canon supporting Snape being a
vampire.
So, that, to me is what links Snape to the vampire (if you will).
Could it LV be the vampire? Could be. Could noone be a vampire.
Sure. But right there in the canon is an arrow that does point at
Snape. Could it be a red herring? Sure.
I am sure I have left a great deal out. Others can chime in where I
have missed. Alot of this I am retyping from a post I put up a
couple days ago.
Jake
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