The Potters' grave and non-domestic elves
Peter Felix Schuster
pfsch at gmx.de
Thu Jan 15 13:33:13 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88814
Hi AmanitaMuscaria!
> Peter:
> I wondered, why Harry never asked to see his parents' grave.
> AmanitaMuscaria : I always assumed it was his upbringing - he
> doesn't ask questions about his parents either, but then, he was
> told from an early age not to ask questions and punished for doing
> so.
Peter: Seems to be a very good explanation for him not asking to me. I
still wonder though whether he's ever told where it is and/or gets
there. If he does it might be of importance - maybe that's where the
dramatical show down will take place. Although there already was a
important scene on a graveyard which would make "mine" just a repeated
one.
> Now, that is an interesting question. Along with whether goblins own
> Gringotts or are just employed there, and who won the goblin wars?
Peter: What wizards call "goblin war" might have been a rebellion
"just" to gain full rights - which they might have won, now having
those rights. Or goblins lost but wizardkind so many losses that they
had to admit certain rights. Such as the right to have property and
run a business.
> Peter: If there are house elves - are there any non domesticated
> elves, too?
> AmanitaMuscaria : Why wouldn't there be renegrade groups of elves
> somewhere? Perhaps Harry needs to ask Dobby?
Peter: I shall remind him of that the next time I meet him. :) Indeed
I assume that there are groups of elves given clothes - they can't all
end up in Hogwarts (though it would explain the large number of elves
in there). Although there is the possibilty that one elf is given
freedom in one hundred years (i.e. it happens very rarely) and the
fact that both Dobby and Winky were freed in such a short time was
only a statiscal accident. ;) But if it happens more often they might
group - and even join "wild elves" somewhere to live with them.
It is said (I think it was in OoP, in a conversation about Kreacher)
that house elves are under a charm making them willing serveants -
correct me if I'm wrong. So I suppose that there are elves not being
charmed in that way.
In some myths the number of elves is quite high (an elf under every
rock). And, in CS a Weasley (Ron?) states that they are only found in
rich wizarding families, but even the Malfoys only had had Dobby.
Since there can't be to many rich families (and Hogwarts as we know
later, perhaps in the MoM and St. Mungus as well), either the
population of elves had been reduced dramatically in history (which
wouldn't be the first time WW did that to non-human magical creatures)
or there are still non domisticated, probably highly intelligent and
powerful "wild elves".
Bye Peter
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