New guy, very long replys!

hufflepuff0305 hufflepuff at pop.com.br
Wed Jan 14 12:45:58 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 88823

Almarë for everyone in HPforGrownups:

I'm Fábio Costa (nicknamed: Samwise  Weasley), and I'm a 25-years-old 
HP
fan! I have read all the five books, including "Order of Phoenix", 
and I
have other hobbys: Star Wars, Middle-Earth, RPG and Linux OS.

I wanna only to make some warnings first about me:

1-) I  don't have home Internet  connection, so my replies  will be 
long
    and about  old topics. Só, anyone  that don't wanna  to read, 
please
    only ignore that...

2-) I don't  speak English as first language (I'm  Brazilian, so I 
speak
    Portuguese), so please sorry myself about my poor English;
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About: Luna's future visions
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"She   is  not  a   Seer  in   the  way   Trelawney  is,   spitting  
out
predicitions/prophecies  at random  moments and  not  remembering 
having
ever  said them  afterwards.   Maybe there's  another  form to  
Seeing."
(Alice)

I believe  that, at the  correct level, something like  LotR's 
Aragorn's
"track-reading". Luna  senses something in the air  and catches 
glimpses
of  the  future.   This  could  be  a  magical  talent  (something  
like
Trelawney's visions and Parseltongue) or  could be a wicked benefit 
that
Luna earn from her's wicked world-vision.
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About: Hermione's skepticism
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"Actually,  given  her  native  skepticism and  Muggle  upbringing,  
I'm
surprised  that  she  didn't  start  out  disbelieving  in  dragons  
and
unicorns. Maybe  the difference  is that the  latter two are  staples 
of
mythology  and/or folklore and  therefore easier  to believe  in--or 
she
read about them  in her textbooks the summer  before attending 
Hogwarts.
How does she *know* there's no  such thing as a heliopath? Just the 
fact
that she's  never seen  one doesn't  mean they don't  exist. For  all 
we
know, the WW may think there's no  such thing as a microbe or a 
molecule
because they don't study biology or physics at Hogwarts." (Carol)

I believe that's okay for Hermione believe in everything that is 
written
in  books. It's  a  sort-of materialistical  vision  from Hermione,  
and
that's okay for a  20th-century muggle-born witch. Dragons, and 
unicorns
are magical beasts that is  describben in so much sources of 
information
(AKA:  books),  so Hermione  has  no  doubt  about its  existence.  
But,
heliopaths? She had  never heard of heliopaths before  Luna's talk 
about
it.  The same  is true  for crumpled  hornshacks (is  really  this?) 
and
tresthals  (but,  in the  end,  Hermione  believes  - or,  more  
exactly,
discover - that thresthals are real).

The same  could be true about  microbe or molecules: the  WW sciences 
is
medieval at least. Phlogistons, earth  in the center of Solar System, 
no
knowledge  about Newtonian Physics  (atom? what  is that?),  etc... 
But,
there's  some examples  against this  in CoS,  when there's  a 
influenza
epidemic in Hogwarts and Madam  Pomfrey knows about that... Okay, 
that's
no cancer, AIDS, or even tuberculosis, but that's okay for me to 
believe
that  WW has  finding some  "parallel development",  where  every 
muggle
development has a parallel wizard development.
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About: Democratic equillibrum
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"I  do  notice  that in  many  fanfics  that  American authors  tend  
to
introduce  US High  School elements  which  are definitely  not part  
of
canon!" (Easleyweasley)

Okay...  for  Hogwarts definitely  cheerleaders and mascots  are 
totally
non-sense, BUT when you thinking in how JK develop Hogwarts (as a 
mirror
of traditional UK schools) you could imagine that a USA school will 
have
cheerleaders and mascots as part of Quidditch games.

For example: here in Brazil  I believe that Wizardry Schools wouldn't 
be
internal,  because the  Brazilian Schools  aren't internal  (very, 
very,
very few schools  are internal...).  The same is  true about 
everything:
opinions about muggles and muggle artifacts, magical creatures, etc...
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About: The End of Voldemort
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"I  agree  that  the  prophecy  says  '  vanquish'  and  this  does  
not
automatically mean 'kill'.  But a sentence from OOTP goes something 
like
this--- either way his life would in murder(quoting from memory).
So Harry will have to kill Voldemort or will be killed himself." 
(Spang)

I believe that Voldemort will not be killed, but:

1-) Will be at some way turned  in a muggle (that's should be worse 
than
    death for someone that believe that muggles are nothing...), or;

2-) Will be utterly  destroyed (more  or less  like Sauron's  defeat 
in
    LotR), so utterly that's will be like he never existed;

When the prophecy says "vanquish",  that's "vanquish", in the sense 
of a
sort  of  utterly, totally  obliteration!   Not  a  death, but  a  
total
obliteration, worst than a dementor's  kiss! i don't know what should 
be
this, but that will be a very, VERY bad thing!
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About: Killing is necessary? (or: Harry will Kill?)
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"I don't want Harry to have to kill, but in a war, how is someone of 
his
age and stature  (relating to the prophecy of  course) supposed to 
avoid
it? JKR  makes a point of  making her fantasy world  very realistic, 
and
after all, it's boys a few years older than Harry's age that get 
shipped
to the front in real world war." (Meri)

Okay, you're right about this... But  I believe that Harry will not 
kill
indiscriminately  (if ever). You  may say  that he  
has "justifications"
like Sirius' death  (yep, I believe that Sirius  is completely, 
totally,
utterly dead!), but  Harry will not undergrade himself  at the levels 
of
D.E. I  believe that, at  some way, Harry  will be learn  something 
like
Gandalf and Frodo's  Bag End dialog in the start  of LotR, where 
Gandalf
says Frodo to not want that his enemies dies!
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About: Percy is evil?
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"Percy is  somewhat of a  bad seed, yes,  but I don't think  he's 
really
evil.  He may  not agree with his family's views, but  to say that 
Percy
will  have something to  do with  the downfall  of a  member of  his 
own
family is carrying  the theory out too far.  I think  that, though he 
is
quite ambitious, Percy  is inherently a good guy doing  what he feels 
is
morally  correct.  Thus said,  I can't  support the  idea that  Percy 
is
evil." (Ali)

I don't  think so... I didn't  like the Percy's snobby  posture in 
OotP,
and  I didn't like  the posture  of him  in "man-walking"  people, 
using
people to socially ascend. I don't know the Percy's future, but, at 
some
way, he  will pay very, very  costly for each Molly's  tear and 
Arthur's
frenzy rages!

Percy has  used for very Slytherin  (IMHO) subterfuges to  gain power 
in
Ministry, including humillating Harry, kicking  has father as a dog, 
and
so on... I surely believed before OotP that Percy is snobby, but good 
at
heart. But OotP  placed Percy Weasley in my personal  HP "Hall of 
Shame"
(AKA: my personal "Harry Potter Characters that we love to hate" list)

"This, I  think, is the  real Percy, who  would welcome a return  to 
his
family  *if only* they'd  recognize his  achievements and  apologize 
for
insulting him. Ron,  too, has trouble saying that he's  sorry and has 
to
wait for the other person to say it first." (Carol)

I  don't  believe that,  at  any time,  Percy  will  apologize for  
your
family. Percy is  so self-made to that (he believe that  "se basta" - 
he
need only himself). The only  *real* Percy's loyalty is with himself. 
He
will never make something disloyal,  but only to mantain the curtain 
for
the fools of the Ministry.
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About: Ron and Strategy
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"Ron  is going  to  be the  leader for  the  army of  children who  
will
ultimately be  responsible for  beating Voldemort's gang.   The 
children
will be the heroes, not the adults! Ron will gain more confidence as 
the
books progress. " (vmonte)

Ron has  strategy, Hermione has  logic, Harry has charisma.  The 
perfect
combo! And with adds of Neville,  Ginny, Luna and the DA the things 
will
be very bad for D.E.

Ron will not win alone. He's a  chess player: he knows that no piece 
win
a victory alone (you need at least  the king and a tower or the queen 
to
win a  chess play: that's chess  finishing theory). Ron's  value will 
be
enhanced more  and more, and when  Ron achieve the  auto-confidency 
of a
Bill or Charlie, Ron will surprise everyone.
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About: Hufflepuff
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"Poor Hufflepuff!   In the defense of  the house no one  wants to 
belong
to, it is  most certainly not the remedial  dumping ground of 
Hogwarts!"
(Mandy)

Talk by yourselves! I'm a Hufflepuff at heart!

Hufflepuff is the more loyal of the houses! The behaviors of 
hufflepuffs
in HP  prove that: they feared Harry  when they believe that  he was 
the
Slytherin Heir, and they angried himselves when Harry "makes his way" 
in
the Triwizard!

The Hufflepuff's symbol is a proof  of that! AFAIK, the badger is a 
cute
and  calm animal, so  long is  not provoked  or another  of her  pack 
is
provoked. But  do that,  and the  entire badger pack  flies in  a 
frenzy
rage!

Hufflepuffs isn't intrinsically dumb!  They're more dedicated (even 
only
to undercover it dumbness) and are hard-workers.

That's my feeling about Hufflepuff, and that's because that feeling 
that
I'm, even  being as smart as a  Ravenclaw, a Hufflepuff at  heart and 
at
marrowbone's core!
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About: Snape as DADA teacher
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"What do you  think the reason is? What is it  about the Defense 
Against
the Dark Arts job that will bring out the evil in Snape?" 
(Sawsan_issa)

Simply enought: he will teach not only DADA, but how to actively use 
the
Dark Arts (like Karkaroff's Durmstrang). Okay, that's non-sense 
thinking
that Snape  will make a mass  production of proto-D.E.  BUT...  The 
real
Snape will be  catched again by the Siren's Call of  the evil... More 
or
less    like    Dark    Side    of    the    Force    in    Star    
Wars
("Quicker... Easier... More Seductive..." - Yoda). That's my opinion.
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About: Hermione's Worse Fear
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"So, what is Hermione's greatest fear, and why wouldn't Lupin allow 
that
to materialize  in the classroom?  How  would he know  what her 
greatest
fear is?" (Karen)

Hermione's fear  is to  be dumb! This  is proven  in the DADA  exam 
when
she's coming  crying saying  that McGonagall has  said she was  fired 
in
everything! (Obviously, this was her Boggart's personification!).

Boggarts impersonate the fear. For example: fear of night=a light-
eating
darkness growing  and growing... That's no real  association between 
the
Boggart's  form and  person's fear,  except when  the case  (like 
Ron's:
spider, or Harry's: dementors).
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About: Neville's Real Power
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"His ego of course  by now is pretty much shot, but  what if now when 
he
get's his  own wand, his powers  channel more effectively.   Would it 
be
enough  to get  his self  esteem  up?  More  on equal  footing with  
the
others? What do you think of the theory?" (Crissy)

Sure would!  Neville  will prove that he isn't no  longer the clumsy 
boy
that entered  Hogwarts! I  believe thar Neville's  Real Power  will 
come
now, with a  "wand chosed him". And, if my suspects  are true, that 
will
be a Dragon-Ball Z Super Sayajin  Level II power! ;-) (even more that 
he
knows  that  Bellatrix  Lestrange  had  tortured  her  fathers'  to  
the
madness!)

"It's entirely possible  that Neville will greatly improve  in his 
magic
abilities NOT  because he  gets a  new wand that's  a 'proper  fit', 
but
because he won't  have the legacy of  his dad (in the form  of his 
dad's
wand) hanging  over him  at every moment  making him feel  inadequate 
by
comparison.  His  family has obviously accentuated his  "lack of 
magical
ability" frequently and  talked about it in front  of Neville for 
years.
Neville  knows he's  a disappointment  to his  relatives and  knows 
they
don't feel he comes even close to his  mom or dad as a wizard.  If a 
new
wand makes Neville  realize that he's free to be  himself and he 
doesn't
HAVE to try  to measure up to his father all  the time....  Neville 
will
be  a  truly   new  and  exciting  character  to   watch.   Imagine  
the
possibilities...."

I bet all my pots in  Neville. He was a very interesting character 
since
SS/PS: he was so clumsy to exist! :o) But, with time and reading, I 
have
noted that Neville's not in  his best form, psychologically speaking: 
he
has so  much "family tradition"  to overpass! Now, without  his 
father's
wand (and with a wand by himself), he will open so much his potential.

Even against  all odds, and  considering the father's wand,  Neville 
has
the first (except  for Hermione) to cast a good  Patronus (?) charm, 
and
he was developing very speedy in  the DA trainings. And that's should 
be
counted as a good point for Neville.

And note  that Neville's progression  starts when Draco  talks 
something
about St' Mungus!
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About: Harry Making plans!
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"But  now that  Harry knows,  will he  start thinking  about  what 
might
happen, how  he might  defeat Voldemort, make  plans, learn  new 
skills,
prepare himself? Or will he just  wait for Voldemort to turn up and 
rely
on last minute luck and courage under fire?" (Spang)

Sure Harry  will make some plans and  learn good skills! He  has so 
much
suffering and death (Cedric, Sirius) to know that impulsiveness could 
be
good, but it's not alweys good!

He will learn how to be a  good leader (or, btter say, a Better 
Leader),
how to trust in comrades and how  to place each one in his correct 
place
of the good/evil balance.

Namarië
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