New guy, very long replys!
hufflepuff0305
hufflepuff at pop.com.br
Wed Jan 14 12:45:58 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 88823
Almarë for everyone in HPforGrownups:
I'm Fábio Costa (nicknamed: Samwise Weasley), and I'm a 25-years-old
HP
fan! I have read all the five books, including "Order of Phoenix",
and I
have other hobbys: Star Wars, Middle-Earth, RPG and Linux OS.
I wanna only to make some warnings first about me:
1-) I don't have home Internet connection, so my replies will be
long
and about old topics. Só, anyone that don't wanna to read,
please
only ignore that...
2-) I don't speak English as first language (I'm Brazilian, so I
speak
Portuguese), so please sorry myself about my poor English;
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About: Luna's future visions
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"She is not a Seer in the way Trelawney is, spitting
out
predicitions/prophecies at random moments and not remembering
having
ever said them afterwards. Maybe there's another form to
Seeing."
(Alice)
I believe that, at the correct level, something like LotR's
Aragorn's
"track-reading". Luna senses something in the air and catches
glimpses
of the future. This could be a magical talent (something
like
Trelawney's visions and Parseltongue) or could be a wicked benefit
that
Luna earn from her's wicked world-vision.
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About: Hermione's skepticism
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"Actually, given her native skepticism and Muggle upbringing,
I'm
surprised that she didn't start out disbelieving in dragons
and
unicorns. Maybe the difference is that the latter two are staples
of
mythology and/or folklore and therefore easier to believe in--or
she
read about them in her textbooks the summer before attending
Hogwarts.
How does she *know* there's no such thing as a heliopath? Just the
fact
that she's never seen one doesn't mean they don't exist. For all
we
know, the WW may think there's no such thing as a microbe or a
molecule
because they don't study biology or physics at Hogwarts." (Carol)
I believe that's okay for Hermione believe in everything that is
written
in books. It's a sort-of materialistical vision from Hermione,
and
that's okay for a 20th-century muggle-born witch. Dragons, and
unicorns
are magical beasts that is describben in so much sources of
information
(AKA: books), so Hermione has no doubt about its existence.
But,
heliopaths? She had never heard of heliopaths before Luna's talk
about
it. The same is true for crumpled hornshacks (is really this?)
and
tresthals (but, in the end, Hermione believes - or, more
exactly,
discover - that thresthals are real).
The same could be true about microbe or molecules: the WW sciences
is
medieval at least. Phlogistons, earth in the center of Solar System,
no
knowledge about Newtonian Physics (atom? what is that?), etc...
But,
there's some examples against this in CoS, when there's a
influenza
epidemic in Hogwarts and Madam Pomfrey knows about that... Okay,
that's
no cancer, AIDS, or even tuberculosis, but that's okay for me to
believe
that WW has finding some "parallel development", where every
muggle
development has a parallel wizard development.
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About: Democratic equillibrum
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"I do notice that in many fanfics that American authors tend
to
introduce US High School elements which are definitely not part
of
canon!" (Easleyweasley)
Okay... for Hogwarts definitely cheerleaders and mascots are
totally
non-sense, BUT when you thinking in how JK develop Hogwarts (as a
mirror
of traditional UK schools) you could imagine that a USA school will
have
cheerleaders and mascots as part of Quidditch games.
For example: here in Brazil I believe that Wizardry Schools wouldn't
be
internal, because the Brazilian Schools aren't internal (very,
very,
very few schools are internal...). The same is true about
everything:
opinions about muggles and muggle artifacts, magical creatures, etc...
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About: The End of Voldemort
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"I agree that the prophecy says ' vanquish' and this does
not
automatically mean 'kill'. But a sentence from OOTP goes something
like
this--- either way his life would in murder(quoting from memory).
So Harry will have to kill Voldemort or will be killed himself."
(Spang)
I believe that Voldemort will not be killed, but:
1-) Will be at some way turned in a muggle (that's should be worse
than
death for someone that believe that muggles are nothing...), or;
2-) Will be utterly destroyed (more or less like Sauron's defeat
in
LotR), so utterly that's will be like he never existed;
When the prophecy says "vanquish", that's "vanquish", in the sense
of a
sort of utterly, totally obliteration! Not a death, but a
total
obliteration, worst than a dementor's kiss! i don't know what should
be
this, but that will be a very, VERY bad thing!
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About: Killing is necessary? (or: Harry will Kill?)
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"I don't want Harry to have to kill, but in a war, how is someone of
his
age and stature (relating to the prophecy of course) supposed to
avoid
it? JKR makes a point of making her fantasy world very realistic,
and
after all, it's boys a few years older than Harry's age that get
shipped
to the front in real world war." (Meri)
Okay, you're right about this... But I believe that Harry will not
kill
indiscriminately (if ever). You may say that he
has "justifications"
like Sirius' death (yep, I believe that Sirius is completely,
totally,
utterly dead!), but Harry will not undergrade himself at the levels
of
D.E. I believe that, at some way, Harry will be learn something
like
Gandalf and Frodo's Bag End dialog in the start of LotR, where
Gandalf
says Frodo to not want that his enemies dies!
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About: Percy is evil?
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"Percy is somewhat of a bad seed, yes, but I don't think he's
really
evil. He may not agree with his family's views, but to say that
Percy
will have something to do with the downfall of a member of his
own
family is carrying the theory out too far. I think that, though he
is
quite ambitious, Percy is inherently a good guy doing what he feels
is
morally correct. Thus said, I can't support the idea that Percy
is
evil." (Ali)
I don't think so... I didn't like the Percy's snobby posture in
OotP,
and I didn't like the posture of him in "man-walking" people,
using
people to socially ascend. I don't know the Percy's future, but, at
some
way, he will pay very, very costly for each Molly's tear and
Arthur's
frenzy rages!
Percy has used for very Slytherin (IMHO) subterfuges to gain power
in
Ministry, including humillating Harry, kicking has father as a dog,
and
so on... I surely believed before OotP that Percy is snobby, but good
at
heart. But OotP placed Percy Weasley in my personal HP "Hall of
Shame"
(AKA: my personal "Harry Potter Characters that we love to hate" list)
"This, I think, is the real Percy, who would welcome a return to
his
family *if only* they'd recognize his achievements and apologize
for
insulting him. Ron, too, has trouble saying that he's sorry and has
to
wait for the other person to say it first." (Carol)
I don't believe that, at any time, Percy will apologize for
your
family. Percy is so self-made to that (he believe that "se basta" -
he
need only himself). The only *real* Percy's loyalty is with himself.
He
will never make something disloyal, but only to mantain the curtain
for
the fools of the Ministry.
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About: Ron and Strategy
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"Ron is going to be the leader for the army of children who
will
ultimately be responsible for beating Voldemort's gang. The
children
will be the heroes, not the adults! Ron will gain more confidence as
the
books progress. " (vmonte)
Ron has strategy, Hermione has logic, Harry has charisma. The
perfect
combo! And with adds of Neville, Ginny, Luna and the DA the things
will
be very bad for D.E.
Ron will not win alone. He's a chess player: he knows that no piece
win
a victory alone (you need at least the king and a tower or the queen
to
win a chess play: that's chess finishing theory). Ron's value will
be
enhanced more and more, and when Ron achieve the auto-confidency
of a
Bill or Charlie, Ron will surprise everyone.
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About: Hufflepuff
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"Poor Hufflepuff! In the defense of the house no one wants to
belong
to, it is most certainly not the remedial dumping ground of
Hogwarts!"
(Mandy)
Talk by yourselves! I'm a Hufflepuff at heart!
Hufflepuff is the more loyal of the houses! The behaviors of
hufflepuffs
in HP prove that: they feared Harry when they believe that he was
the
Slytherin Heir, and they angried himselves when Harry "makes his way"
in
the Triwizard!
The Hufflepuff's symbol is a proof of that! AFAIK, the badger is a
cute
and calm animal, so long is not provoked or another of her pack
is
provoked. But do that, and the entire badger pack flies in a
frenzy
rage!
Hufflepuffs isn't intrinsically dumb! They're more dedicated (even
only
to undercover it dumbness) and are hard-workers.
That's my feeling about Hufflepuff, and that's because that feeling
that
I'm, even being as smart as a Ravenclaw, a Hufflepuff at heart and
at
marrowbone's core!
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About: Snape as DADA teacher
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"What do you think the reason is? What is it about the Defense
Against
the Dark Arts job that will bring out the evil in Snape?"
(Sawsan_issa)
Simply enought: he will teach not only DADA, but how to actively use
the
Dark Arts (like Karkaroff's Durmstrang). Okay, that's non-sense
thinking
that Snape will make a mass production of proto-D.E. BUT... The
real
Snape will be catched again by the Siren's Call of the evil... More
or
less like Dark Side of the Force in Star
Wars
("Quicker... Easier... More Seductive..." - Yoda). That's my opinion.
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About: Hermione's Worse Fear
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"So, what is Hermione's greatest fear, and why wouldn't Lupin allow
that
to materialize in the classroom? How would he know what her
greatest
fear is?" (Karen)
Hermione's fear is to be dumb! This is proven in the DADA exam
when
she's coming crying saying that McGonagall has said she was fired
in
everything! (Obviously, this was her Boggart's personification!).
Boggarts impersonate the fear. For example: fear of night=a light-
eating
darkness growing and growing... That's no real association between
the
Boggart's form and person's fear, except when the case (like
Ron's:
spider, or Harry's: dementors).
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About: Neville's Real Power
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"His ego of course by now is pretty much shot, but what if now when
he
get's his own wand, his powers channel more effectively. Would it
be
enough to get his self esteem up? More on equal footing with
the
others? What do you think of the theory?" (Crissy)
Sure would! Neville will prove that he isn't no longer the clumsy
boy
that entered Hogwarts! I believe thar Neville's Real Power will
come
now, with a "wand chosed him". And, if my suspects are true, that
will
be a Dragon-Ball Z Super Sayajin Level II power! ;-) (even more that
he
knows that Bellatrix Lestrange had tortured her fathers' to
the
madness!)
"It's entirely possible that Neville will greatly improve in his
magic
abilities NOT because he gets a new wand that's a 'proper fit',
but
because he won't have the legacy of his dad (in the form of his
dad's
wand) hanging over him at every moment making him feel inadequate
by
comparison. His family has obviously accentuated his "lack of
magical
ability" frequently and talked about it in front of Neville for
years.
Neville knows he's a disappointment to his relatives and knows
they
don't feel he comes even close to his mom or dad as a wizard. If a
new
wand makes Neville realize that he's free to be himself and he
doesn't
HAVE to try to measure up to his father all the time.... Neville
will
be a truly new and exciting character to watch. Imagine
the
possibilities...."
I bet all my pots in Neville. He was a very interesting character
since
SS/PS: he was so clumsy to exist! :o) But, with time and reading, I
have
noted that Neville's not in his best form, psychologically speaking:
he
has so much "family tradition" to overpass! Now, without his
father's
wand (and with a wand by himself), he will open so much his potential.
Even against all odds, and considering the father's wand, Neville
has
the first (except for Hermione) to cast a good Patronus (?) charm,
and
he was developing very speedy in the DA trainings. And that's should
be
counted as a good point for Neville.
And note that Neville's progression starts when Draco talks
something
about St' Mungus!
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About: Harry Making plans!
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"But now that Harry knows, will he start thinking about what
might
happen, how he might defeat Voldemort, make plans, learn new
skills,
prepare himself? Or will he just wait for Voldemort to turn up and
rely
on last minute luck and courage under fire?" (Spang)
Sure Harry will make some plans and learn good skills! He has so
much
suffering and death (Cedric, Sirius) to know that impulsiveness could
be
good, but it's not alweys good!
He will learn how to be a good leader (or, btter say, a Better
Leader),
how to trust in comrades and how to place each one in his correct
place
of the good/evil balance.
Namarië
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Samwise Weasley The Burrow, Bag Road, 9 3/4
Borda da Mata - MG - Brazil Nick: Sam_Weasley
hufflepuff at pop.com.br ICQ #:173799674
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