What's in the locked room?
Berit Jakobsen
belijako at online.no
Mon Jan 19 13:06:51 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89111
Kneasy wrote:
For example, is the love one feels for a partner the same as the
> love one feels for a parent or child? Nope. Can one love someone
that
> you have never met ( necessary for the outbreak of universal
> togetherness proposed by some who see Harry as a Redeemer figure)?
No.
> Empathy is not the same as love. And I don't think JKR would be
that
> controversial; lots of real world problems in that direction. You
may
> love, you may give love, but that doesn't mean it will be accepted -
or
> reciprocated. It's a very individual thing that does not exist
unless
> there is a person or thing as cause or object for the emotion. It's
> more of a reaction than a universal absolute. I see it as an
omnibus
> word used to describe a plethora of personal feelings that may or
may
> not signify something important or permanent. Most unsatisfactory.
>
> There was a thread a few months back on courage, bravery and
> such-like. Very difficult to define the terms. What some may
perceive
> as 'bravery' by Harry others see as rashness or lack of foresight.
He
> gets himself in a pickle and somebody else has to come along and
get
> him out of it. Not convincing.
>
> Similarly attributes such as fortitude, steadfastness, heart
(whatever
> that is) could be dismissed as pig-headed stubbornness. Let's face
it,
> he's shown a lot of that over 5 books.
>
> Truth. That's an interesting concept that has attracted some. What
is
> truth? Depends who you ask. To some it is a proof based on strict
> logic; to others the basis of their personal philosophies and not
> subject to logic at all. Most importantly, how can truth be applied
to
> young Potter? He doesn't have a clue what's true and what isn't so
how
> can he be 'filled' with it as DD suggests?
>
> Sorry, folks. I'm not persuaded.
> But Life can be studied objectively. It is a demonstrable property
of
> some forms of organic matter, it can be ended, it can be
propagated,
> and it is a powerful force.
>
> It's what Lily gave to Harry with her sacrifice, it's what Voldy
wants
> to remove from Harry, it's what Voldemort has perverted in the
denial
> of his mortality, it's what he denies with the name given to his
> supporters. And if, as DD says of the Flamels, death is the *next*
> great adventure, what was the first? Life, of course. Well worth
> investigating.
>
> You probably don't agree. Am I down-hearted? No; while there's
life,
> there's hope.
>
> Kneasy
Berit replies:
I like your well-written post :-)
DD says Voldemort fears the mysterious force in the MoM-room. But how
can Voldemort fear what he seems to have used the better part of his
life to get: immortality/everlasting life? Have you thought of an
explanation to this seeming discrepancy?
I know it makes me very boring, but I still believe Love is the force
studied in this room, and I don't agree with your definition of love.
It is a universal absolute, a principle, not just a collection of
vaguely defined emotions and feelings. If love wasn't a principle,
there would be no point in the promise of the marital wow of sticking
together "for better or for worse" (I know; a lot of people get
divorced anyway, but maybe one reason is that they haven't grasped
the meaning of what true love is all about...). That's why a man like
Dumbledore can be trusted: He is governed by Love, the principle.
Meaning we can trust him sticking to "acting out of love", no matter
what he is subjectively feeling at any given time.
Berit
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