Shipping

philstar222 philstar22 at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 19 12:18:47 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 89114

Hi, I am philstar22. I am a huge Harry Potter shipper and debater. I
am 18 and I live in the Philippines. However, I am an American. I am
a huge H/HR shipper. I like other ships, but that is my OTP and the
one that I am most certain will be canon.

Shipping, for me, has always been there since I read the first book.
This was even before I discovered fandom. I guess I am probably
biased by my parents relationship. They were very close friends
before they began to date. They did not realize their feelings until
my mom was about to leave the country. Now, they seem to have the
ideal relationship, at least to me. They rarely fight, and when they
do, they make up. They do not insult each other. They are different
but share values.

To me, Harry/Hermione is the ideal pairing. They are best friends.
They share a bond. It was this bond, the one I saw in the first
book, that first drew me to this pairing. They seemed so much closer
than Ron and Hermione were. Ron and Hermione were always fighting.
Some people find this cute, but to me it is not about sexual
tension. They simply do not agree on anything. They are way too
alike in personality and way to different in values to ever get
along.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes I like the bickering kind of
relationship. I was into Star Wars much sooner than Harry Potter. I
love the Han/Leia relationship. I am also a Draco/Ginny shipper. For
me, however, it depends on the personality of the people. Han and
Leia as well as Draco and Ginny are all very self assured people.
They are firm in who they are and can handle someone who questions
and insults them. Ron and Hermione are not. They are both insecure.
Ron needs someone who is completely there for him and who admires
him because of his insecurities and his growing up in a large
family. Hermione is too independent and as of yet does not seem to
admire him. Hermione is unsure of herself. She needs someone who
allows her to be independent and who respects her for who she is.

To me, the most important things in a relationship are friendship,
respect, compromise, and understanding. Ron and Hermione are
friends, but it is a different kind of friendship. They don't have
that warmth, that closeness that is there between Harry and
Hermione. Ron and Hermione respect each other as people, but they do
not respect the other's view points. That is a really bad thing in a
relationship. In a relationship you have to be willing to
compromise. Ron and Hermione have once, but it was only for Harry.
They have never done it on their own for themselves. Ron and
Hermione do not really understand each other. They never go out of
their way to try to understand what the other is thinking.

Harry and Hermione seem to share all these things. They are very
close friends. They are there for each other even when Ron is not.
They hardly fight, and when they do they make up quickly. Hermione
went to his quidditch game even when they were fighting. She did not
go to Ron's when Harry was not playing. This shows that she respects
him. She may not like the same things he likes, but she is willing
to be there for him. He respects her. He does not agree with her on
SPEW, but he respects her view point and does not insult her. He
even refuses to tell her that Dobby took all the things she knitted.
Harry and Hermione compromise a lot in the books. They understand
each other. They share a bond. They know each other and what the
other will think, say, or do. Hermione knew that Harry had a saving
people thing. They always seem to be on the same wavelength.

Another important thing in a relationship is that the two have
different, compimentary personalities and similar values. Ron and
Hermione have very similar personalities. Both are strong, bold
people. Both are not afraid to say what they thing. Both are
slightly insecure. What is different about them is their values. He
values fun, humor, and traditions. She values hard work, learning,
and equal rights at the expense of tradition. That is why they clash
so much.

Harry and Hermione are different. She is bold and not afraid to say
what she thinks. She is logical and anilitical. He is less bold and
more shy. He is more impetuous. They balance each other. They share
values. He does not agree with her methods, but he is all for elf
rights. He in general values hard work, though not as much as she
does.

For me, chemistry is secondary. It is something that develops. There
are different kinds of relationships. In the kind that develops from
friendship, you do not notice the chemistry until it is impossible
to deny it anymore. It is not an obvious thing.

When it comes to canon, I think H/Hr shippers not only see it
different than R/Hr shippers, but look at it differently. R/Hr
shippers tend to look at specific moments. They look for tension and
conflict. H/Hr shippers tend to look at it from the perspective of
the series as a whole. We look at how the relationships are
developing. We look at the bond between H/Hr and how it has grown
since book one. Of course, we have are moments, but our approach is
generally more wholistic.

Another think I would like to point out is that there are only two
books left. Plus, there will be a war going on. I do not believe
that romance will play a major part, but I do think that Harry needs
a romance. He needs someone there at his side who understands him
and can help him. Whatever the Harry romance is, it will be the main
one. Frankly, I do not think that there will be enough time to
develop anything but H/Hr. She is the only one who already has a
strong relationship with Harry.

My other ships that I think will probably be canon are Ron/Luna and
Neville/Ginny. I ship them more for compatability than anything else.

I know that most R/Hr shippers think that those who ship Ron with
Luna just want to foist him off, but that is not true. That is what
I feel about them and H/G, but I will not go into that. When I first
read about Luna, I thought she was perfect for Ron. I did not even
think about H/Hr until later. I just loved the idea. She can focus
on him. She appreciates him and his humor. He can balance out her
abstractness because he is very down to earth.

I did not really think about Neville/Ginny until I read the fifth
book. This was because I did not like Ginny until then. Now I like
her a lot. I think that they would be good for each other. She is
impetuous like Harry (a reason why they would be bad for each other)
and Neville is more logical like Hermione. She is bold while he is
shy. He can calm her and she can boost him.

Many R/Hr shippers say that their ship is like Molly/Arthur. I do
not see it. Ron and Hermione both argue and Ron often if not usually
starts their arguements. Mr. Weasley does not argue back at his
wife. Molly and Arthur do not insult each other.

Actually, Neville/Ginny reminds me more of Arthur/Molly. Ginny is
very much like her mother, and Neville reminds me of Arthur.

Well, that went on for a while. I probably have more reasons, but I
can't think of them at the moment. Anyways, those are my main
reasons for shipping H/Hr and my other ships.







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