Harry the Auror

suehpfan stanleys at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 20 05:27:59 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 89193

Sachmet:
> > > But what it comes down to is that Harry tried to kill someone 
at the age of 15. I don't think such a thing can be 
overlooked. 
  
Frost:
> > > > No, he didn't. He just tried to hurt someone very 
badly.  
> > > > Crucio is not the same as a AK.  The difficulty is still that 
> he 
> > > > tried to use an unforgivable, but was unable to.

lizvega2:
> > I think Bellatrix actually covered this one for us. You have to 
> > really MEAN them (Unforgivable Curses) in order for them to work. 
> No 
> > book in front of me for an exact quote, but, she says something 
> > along the line of, "righteous anger won't last for long" Even 
Harry 
> > noticed that after he cast the spell, she did fall on the ground, 
> > but she didn't scream or writhe in pain. He DIDN'T mean to really 
> > cause her pain, he was angry. He was't trying to kill anyone, he 
> may 
> > have said it in the death chamber, before he ran after Bellatrix, 
> > but for those of you familiar with the old Jack Lemmon movie, 12 
> > Angry Men, saying that you want to kill someone doesn't mean that 
> > you actually want them dead.


I have been following this thread and several posts have come up that 
I have trouble with.  First of all, maybe I am naive, but I feel on a 
very important level that JKR would not revolve an entire series 
around a character who turns out to be evil.  In the U.S. and 
probably in other countries as well there are laws where retaliation, 
even if it includes murder, are considered justified.  Whether or not 
this is moral could be debated forever, however, in the case of 
Harry's attack on Belletrix, his actions may not be the highest moral 
road but I think most of us have faced a time when our outrage at 
another persons actions cause us to step over the line.  

I like the above quote about righteous anger because it puts his 
feelings in perspective, he could NOT perform a successful Cruciatus 
curse because the ability to be cruel is not a part of his make-up.  
There are so many places where he is able to see other's feelings and 
be compassionate (Snape in the pensieve for one).  These are the 
times when his character comes into focus for me.  

There are so many references to Harry's arrogance or lack of 
extrordinary talent on this list that sometimes I feel like I am 
reading a different series of books or just don't understand them in 
the same way.  Dumbledore says at the end of OotP "...I have watched 
you more closely than you can have imagined...I never dreamed that I 
would have such a person on my hands....Young you might be, but you 
had proved yourself exceptional." (American Ed. pg. 839) Regardless 
of whether or not you trust DD, he seems to know a talented wizard 
when he sees one (Tom Riddle) and he believes Harry is exceptional.  

That is how I chose to see him as well.  We rarely see what other 
students do.  Only a few glimpses or HRH and sometimes Neville and 
usually when they are making a mistake.  I am looking forward to 
seeing how the OWL's turn out so that we get a more objective view of 
their abilities.  I believe Harry will prove himself exceptional, and 
in the end be able to do whatever he pleases.

Sue (who really LIKES Harry and wishes him well)






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