The MAP & Ron=DD

[Arya]

No: HPFGUIDX 89480

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Helen R. Granberry" 
<helen at o...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "tonyaminton" <TonyaMinton at h...> wrote:
> The people Harry picks out the first time he sees the Map are
> Dumbledore, Peeves and Ms. Norris, 'people' he needs to watch out
> for while wandering around the castle (POA, p. 193).
> 
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> I don't have my copy of books here at work to check this, but if 
you 
> say Dumbledore has been spotted on the map, then wouldn't this be 
> some fairly hard evidence that Dumbledore is indeed Albus Dumbleore 
> and not Ron Weasley?  
> 
> Arya (who thinks it's odd that neither Harry nor the twins ever saw 
a 
> Ron Weasley dot with a nearby Peter Pettigrew dot...)
> 
> 
> From Helen:
> 
> That's easy enough... they are the same person, yet two separate 
people.
> Ron Weasley wasn't even born when the Map was made. He was already 
Albus
> Dumbledore. He had already taken on that name and identity. When Ron
> Weasley is actually born, he is still Ron Weasley. Dumbledore was
> already on the map as Dumbledore, because that was the identity he 
had
> taken on. When Ron shows up at Hogwarts, he's not Albus Dumbledore 
yet,
> so he shows up as Ron Weasley.


Arya again:
But I'm not so sure I can buy this because, despite time-travel, 
there is still only one person.  (I think of it, no, actually, I've 
physically gotten a string out to conceptualize this-- meaning there 
is only one "lifeline". (One finite peice of string) But with time 
travel, it can loop back around and allow two segments of the string 
to coexist at the same points of time.  Obviously, this concept is up 
for debate, but I think we know 'the Marauder's Map never lies' 
(supposedly) and that if polyjuice, which physically turns one person 
into another doesn't fool the map, then it likely has nothing to do 
with the "contrived" identity of the person, but with the true 
identity of the person.  

Wow, that felt like a very....intangible post.