Ginny Weasley (and the archway)
ilubom
irina_l_ at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 24 10:51:05 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89541
shrijnana wrote:
<snip>
> > But what about Ginny? Why is she entranced by the veil?
> Hitomi:
> My only thing with your point here: we don't know if loved ones
> are heard from behind the veil, we just know dead people, or
> spirits, are more than likely heard behind the veil. We could just
> be making something out of nothing, in that maybe Hermione and Ron
> didn't look at it the same way the others did, or weren't listening,
> or some trivial detail. Do I think we are? Not really, but like I
> said, there's only so much speculation one can do. Maybe Ginny heard
> voices because she killed chickens, I don't know (though that would
> be stupid in my opinion, and wouldn't really make sense, considering
> they're animals and don't talk). I don't think she saw Tom
> Riddle "die," so that can't be it. Maybe those tombs in Egypt had
> an affect.
I've got a bit of a wild idea about Ginny and that archway. Hitomi
mentioned the trip to Egypt and it sort of got me thinking about
some other connections with Egypt and its mythology (eg Hermione's
mention that Egyptians were amazing wizards, the sphinx in the GoF,
etc). Now, the setup of the room where the archway is, as described
by Harry, resembles a courtroom. If the room merely contains a
doorway to the spirit world/underworld - why have that sort of a
setup?
What I am thinking is in Egyptian mythology, when a person dies they
are "tried" before 42 judges. This trial takes place in the throne
room of Osiris (a king who was killed by his brother, resurected for
one day by his wife to father a son who eventually came to defeat
the murderer). Those judged pure of heart would become spirits and
pass into the spirit world where they could battle the chaos serpent
(Egyptians had a thing about snakes). Egyptians also believed that
the separation between the spirit world and the world of the living
was very flimsy indeed and there are, in some writings, analogies to
veils or curtains.
So what if the veil/archway is the entrance to the spirit
world/world of the dead and the soul of the dead person is allowed
to enter it after a "trial". (Perhaps those who aren't deemed worthy
to enter the spirit world remain behind as ghosts? Sirius then can't
come back as a ghost because he went through into the spirit world).
Harry, Luna and Neville have each seen death, a soul making the
transition to the spirit world - they may be able to feel the world
beyond the flimsy curtain. Ginny may not have seen death in the
traditional sense, but a part of her own soul was separated from
her - Riddle mentions in the second book that she was putting a bit
of her (her soul?) in the diary. In fact, she put enough of her soul
in it to be pretty close to death. Perhaps this is the reason that
she too can feel the spirit world and is entranced by it - she
almost crossed into it herself.
Or perhaps, as Hitomi suggested, something in Egypt made her
particularly attuned to the afterworld.
It is interesting that Hermione is terrified by the archway and she
has in the past demonstrated a particular fear of near-death
situations (eg. in P/SS she panics in the devil's snare, in PoA she
is extremely tense/panicky when they enter the Shrieking Shack). She
is afraid of death and maybe she can feel its presence in that room.
Ok, I think I'll stop now, thanks to those who are still awake and
listening to my out of the left field ramblings.
Cheers
IL
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