Ginny Weasley

[quigonginger]

No: HPFGUIDX 89546

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "shrijnana" <dh.shrijnana at v...> 
wrote:
> I've had a few questions about Ginny Weasley... maybe they've been
> discussed here before; if so maybe someone less new to the group can
> point me to the relevant posts. I think there's even more to Ginny
> than meets the eye, even more that the powerful witch an quiddich
> player she's growing into being.
> 
> First, in POA she is deeply affected by the dementors on the train 
to
> Hogwarts, as is Neville. At first I thought that might be due to her
> experience with Tom Riddle in COS, but after reading OotP I'm not so
> sure. She tells Harry that she cannot remember the times she was
> possesed by LV at all. "When he did it to me I couldn't remember 
what
> I'd been doing for hours at a time. (pg. 500 US edition). Would the
> dementors be able to bring up those unconscious memories?

Now Ginger:
To be honest, I think Ginny is lying, or at least hedging, when she 
says she doesn't remember.  I don't mean that as a moral judgement, 
although Ginny has shown that she can lie unblushingly. (The 
dungbombs at the kitchen door at #12 come to mind.)  

Whatever happened in CoS was probably more traumatic than what has 
been revealed.  I have to wonder what a 16 year old boy with *total 
control* of a young girl might do to her during the lulls between 
petrifications, the rooster killings, etc.  Even though he couldn't 
leave the diary, he could have brought her into it as he did Harry.  
I don't think anything like I am thinking would be stated outright in 
a book that young children are reading.  It may just be between the 
lines.  

In such a case, her memory loss may be due to a charm, due to trauma 
(as happens in the RW), or she may be lying to avoid further 
questions.  Again, not a moral judgement, but rather, self 
preservation on her part.  

Ginny and Neville both came out strong in this book.  I have to think 
that Neville found his strength in 1) realizing that he had tea with 
his parents' torturer (BC, Jr/Moody), 2) The remaining torturers 
escaping Azkaban, and 3)the return of LV.  His "safe" world where the 
worst thing he had to fear was Snape is gone.  There is now a need 
for self defense and retribution, not in the vigilante sense, but in 
the need for those who have harmed his loved ones to be brought 
foreward and called to account for their actions.

Ginny may have had a like moment.  The one who held her mental 
hostage and forced her to do his bidding is now on the loose.  While 
in one sense, LV and Diary!Tom are two different entities, they are 
nonetheless the same person.  Diary!Tom is gone for good, but LV is 
back.  I would wager that in the end, she has some righteous fury 
that may come into play in a battle against LV.  

And, yes, I think you are right that the Dementors may have brought 
back some of these memories, either by bringing them from beyond her 
former ability to remember or by forcing her to think about things 
she had been trying to forget.

I snipped the last part of the original as others have had worthy 
things to say and I'd only be repeating :)

Ginger, who likes Ginny very much, maybe because, like a good 
Martini, we both start with Gin.  Although, I think I'm more easily 
shaken, she's more easily stirred.