Is Snape a pureblood? and a few other bits Ive been concerned about
Karen
ktd7 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 24 22:26:11 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89560
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Hitomi"
<japanesesearcher at y...> wrote:
> Bridget wrote:
> > I have A theory about why Voldy doesn't suspect Snape after the
> > Voldy/Quirrell Stuff: Snape didn't or at least wasn't supposed
to
> > know that Voldemort was the reason Quirrell was trying to steal
> > the Stone and kill Harry. He obviously knew Quirrell was a bad
guy
> > and tried to stop him, but that doesn't mean he knew Voldy was
> > involved.
> > Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember there being anything
> > saying that Snape knew about Voldemort. Although I do think
Snape
> > is incredibly intelligent and may have figured out what was
going
> > on, I don't believe he let on to know about Voldy if he did
know.
>
>
>
> Hitomi:
> No, Bridget you're absolutely right. (Or, at least, I think you
> are, I don't have Book 1 with me ::sheepish grin::) We DON'T know
> that Snape knew it was LV, just as we don't know that LV knew if
> Snape knew it was him or not (oy! that sounds really confusing).
I
> was assuming too much; thanks for pointing that out. My only
thing,
> LV being LV, it would still surprise me if he didn't, at the very
> least, suspect Snape of betrayal. Like I said, I think Snape
treads
> a very fine line, and is playing very dangerously. And though he
> may be trustworthy, he never exactly shows all his cards, so Snape
> makes me just a little bit... anxious, I guess is the word I'm
> looking for. But thereto, Snape is also a practiced Occlumens,
just
> as LV knows Legilimency. Snape may be able to lie convincingly in
> front of LV, though I would be surprised if LV didn't know Snape
> practiced Occlumency. DD always seems to know just about
> everything, and LV is kind of the same way. We don't know enough
> about Snape or the situation, but it does make me think.
>
This brings up an interesting point... I'm not sure I'm thinking of
this exactly in the same way. Snape tried to save Harry because he
knew that someone had enchanged his broom to throw him off. Snape
was doing a counter charm. That does not necessarily mean that Snape
knew who performed the initial curse. However, in Harry's final
showdown with Quirrel/Voldemort, Quirrel/Voldemort tells Harry that
Snape had tried to save him. This produces a couple of questions.
*First, did Q/V just assume that Snape was saving a student and not
actively working against him?
*Second, would Q/V have considered Snape no longer a follower since
he was working against him, whether consciously or unconciously?
Snape had the interesting conversation with Quirrel outside the
Library wanting to know where his loyalties were. Knowing what we
now know, we assume that Snape was warning Quirrel not to be working
for Voldemort. However, if that is true, Quirrel/Voldemort would now
know that Snape is working against him. Snape would be no good as
a "double agent".
If Snape was warning Quirrel to not go against the Dark Lord, then
Snape was and is playing a triple agent game, and cannot be trusted
at all. I'm not jumping on the "Evil Snape" bandwagon, but he cannot
be infiltrating Voldemort's camp without Voldemort knowing that he
is spying for Dumbledore. Either Snape's OotP activies are of a
different nature, or he doesn't know that Voldemort is on to him, or
else he is actually working for Lord Thingy.
Karen
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