Stockwell Orphanage
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at aol.com
Sat Jan 24 23:51:12 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89571
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_reader2003"
<carolynwhite2 at a...> wrote:
Carolyn:
> So ! The investigation continues ! However, I think that at some
> point we have to ask ourselves whether JKR did any of the digging
> that we have, and if so, to what purpose.. is there a clue there
for
> us to find or not ?
>
> Did she deliberately find a road that used to be called something
> else just to conclusively link Tom Riddle to the Stockwell
orphanage
> or not ?
>
> And if he was at the orphanage, we still don't have any idea why,
> when it really seems to be an awful long way from Little Hangleton.
>
> Methinks, since it was an important Baptist orphanage, you should
set
> up a sneaky church research project, Geoff, and get lots of your
> fellow brethren engaged in looking through dusty files from the
1920s
> and 1930s, to see if there was some surprising project to bring
> children from all over the UK to London at that time. An
> international research project, tell them, with interested
supporters
> all over the world <g>. Well.. we have to find out somehow .. and
> they might enjoy it !
Geoff (in 89499):
Digressing for a moment to Carolyn's comments in 89406, I hope to try
to obtain a little bit more information on the question of the
orphanage over the weekend. One of our church members was on the
staff at Spurgeon's College for many years and has already helped me
with one or two points, so I shall do some more arm-twisting!
Watch out, Tom, we're on your tail again.
:-)
Geoff again:
By coincidence, I met the church member I wanted to see town this
morning and was able to raise th matter with her.
As a result of my reading of the situation is this. I have explained
in a previous post some weeks ago that Chalres Haddon Spurgeon was
one of the greatest Baptist ministers in our history - certainly for
his time. His name still lives on in the name of his church at the
Elephant & Castle - Spurgeon's Tabernacle. He felt a call from God to
address the needs of orphans and the Stockwell Orphanage was opened
in 1869 to cater for 250 boys - the girls' accommodation following in
1879.
Obviously,Spurgeon's first concern was for the children of the London
area. If you track down the 1881 census figures,as Shaun and I did
independently, most of the scholars listed are from the London area.
Remember that, prior to the formation of the London County Council,
many areas which are now part of Greater London would be listed under
their old counties of Middlesex, Surrey, Kent, Essex and possibly
Hertfordshire which had their boundaries pushed out, first by the LCC
by its formation in 1887 and further by the formation of the Greater
London council in 1965.
However, there are a number of pupils in ths list who come from towns
and villages far outside the London area. Why? My enquiries of my
contact elicited the fact that there was only one Orphanage set up by
the Baptist church; it still exists today as part of the Spurgeon's
Child Care group.
So, it would be quite likely that a Baptist family with an orphan on
their hands would eschew a secular institution - with the reputation
that some of them had obtained via Charles Dickens for example - and
might go for their denominational Orphanage in London. Possibly
therefore, Tom Riddle Senior was a Baptist (though his behaviour
suggests that he was a bad one!) and so TR Junior finished up there.
However, a second possbility is that, having been abandoned, Tom's
mothe went to relatives who organised her while she approached her
labour - in a hospital either locally or in London and that Tom went
to Stockwell after his mothers' death.
Plenty to chew on over this!
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