Stockwell Orphanage

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 89690

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "manawydan" <manawydan at n...> 
wrote:
> Carolyn wrote:
> > Geoff, a further point on location. As you will have gathered, I
> > wouldn't choose Baptist history as my starter for 10 on 
Mastermind,
> > but a faint bell has just rung in my head about the Welsh 
Baptists,
> > as a well-known and vocal part of your church.
> >
> > There are so many Welsh threads in the series, not least about
> > Godric's Hollow, dragons, green eyes etc etc.. could this be 
another?
> > Is Little Hangleton on the Welsh border perhaps ?
> 
> There are a lot of -ton names around the North East Wales area so 
if you're
> going to surmise, then that's the place to look. But there's one 
possible
> flaw in the theory. The descriptions of the Riddle House and of the 
Riddles'
> social position suggests that they're "gentry". And that would 
almost
> certainly rule out the possibility of their being Baptists.


Geoff:
In rural areas perhaps. But there are many very sizeable Baptist 
churches which were established in urban areas dating back a long 
way. And we are talking of the mid-20th century.


Ffred:
> In Wales, as in England, Nonconformism was largely a lower class 
belief. the
> gentry were mostly Anglicans - squire and parson are inextricably 
linked in
> village life. Slightly differently between the two countries - in 
Wales the
> middle class were largely Nonconformist, in England they were 
largely
> Anglican. Even being Baptist was slightly unusual in Wales, most 
people in
> Wales were New Dissent (Calvinistic Methodists) rather than Old 
Dissent
> (Baptists, Independents, and so on).

Geoff:
Yes which is as I suggested previously; the Welsh Baptist setup, in 
fact the whole Welsh attitude to "chapel", is in many ways quite 
different to the English.