The Scar. Was: Choices - or not.

ghinghapuss rredordead at aol.com
Mon Jan 26 23:17:51 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 89696

> Whizbang wrote:
> Lily never cast a protection charm!??!  She died to save Harry.  It 
> was like the bond between a wizard and one who saves his life.  The 
> traces of her love, the love that brought her to die for her child, 
> are the protection that is still in Harry's blood.  Dumbledore cast 
> a charm that kept Harry protected in the house of Lily's sister.  
> But even that was based on Lily's blood, given for Harry.  It's a 
> blood bond.

Mandy here:
How do you know she didn't? And can you back it up with some theory?  
We don't know what Lily did in Godric's Hollow in the moments right 
before she died. The only witnesses that event that we know of are 
Voldemort and Harry.  Neither of whom are in much of a position to 
remember clearly what happened. 

Yes, Lily died protecting her child, just how she protected him is 
still a mystery, and one of the big mysteries of the whole saga.  We 
can conclude that she did more than just throw herself in front of 
her son, because she is not the only mother/witch in history to die 
saving her child from murder, yet she is the only one to have 
apparently placed some kind on protection over him that was powerful 
enough to save him from death.  Powerful enough for Harry to be the 
only human EVER to have survived the Unforgivable Advada Kadava.  We 
also know Lily was good at charm work, so it is not unreasonable to 
conclude that the combination of her sacrifice and a damn good charm 
is what saved her son.  Lily's protection is far more than her death 
alone. A thought to ponder over is we know her protection lives in 
his blood but how did it enter his body?  


> > Mandy wrote:
> > But it is interesting that the scar is in the shape of 
he "Eihwas" rune symbol meaning protection.  

> Whizbang wrote:
> The rune is the sowelo, representing the sun and the life force.  
>The scar is Voldemort's life force which he lost when he tried to 
>kill Harry. <snip>  

Mandy again:
The scar can be either depending on which way around it is arranged.  
The two symbols are mirror images of each other.  Unfortunately the 
books just say it is a lighting bolt and don't specify the direction 
it takes. We only have the movies to rely on the direction of the 
scar, personally I don't trust the films completely as they like to 
change things to create ascetically pleasing results.  However I will 
agree that the meaning can be Life Force or it could be Protection.  
Interesting that Lily and Voldemort represent both of these elements 
to Harry in the moment of conflict in Godric's Hollow that night.  
Perhaps the scar is a combination of both elements?



>Whizbang wrote:
>It is the scar which connects Harry and Voldemort, and is the mark 
that makes Harry >Voldemort's equal. <snip>

Mandy again:
Yes, it does, but because it is the only thing that Voldemort's AK 
left on Harry (as opposed to death or half-life etc) it is also what 
connects him to his mother's protection of him.  As I explained above 
Harry is the only one to have survived the AK and that survival was 
because of his mothers sacrifice, the combination of both left Harry 
with nothing but the scar.


 
> Whizbang:  
> Harry remembers the green flash followed by the pain in his 
forehead that the Dudley's had told him happened in the car crash.

Mandy again:
Yes, but that doesn't' prove it was just Voldemort's AK alone that 
left Harry with the scar.  The power of the rebounding AK combined 
with Lily's protection is what Harry his famous mark.

Cheers Mandy.






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