The Scar. Was: Choices - or not

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 89802

> > Whizbang wrote:
> > Please show us in canon any evidence that Lily did a charm.  Dying 
> > to protect Harry left traces of her love on him that was 
> > protective.  But it was Dumbledore who did the charm and it 
> required 
> > that Harry call home the place where his mother's blood dwells.
> 
> 
> Mandy responds:
> There is no canon evidence because it a theory that I'm playing with 
> right now.  And until we get the whole story of Godric's Hollow I 
> doubt I will be able to back it up with anything concrete.  Perhaps 
> not even then.  I could very well be completely wrong. 
> 
> But for know, my theory come from the idea that there have been many 
> mothers in the history of the world who have died for their children, 
> and I'm assuming (always dangerous, I admit) that there have been 
> many mothers in the WW who have died for their children as well.  
> However Harry is the first one to receive some kind of `extra 
> special' protection. Enough to protect him from the AK and we do know 
> he is the first to survive the AK.  
> 
> So Lily did something different <snip> in that moment that gave Harry 
> the power to be the only person to have survived the AK. 
> 
> And yes, DD charm seals Lily's protection as long as Harry calls his 
> home that of a blood relative.  I don't in any way dispute DD 
> contribution to the protection of Harry through the blood of his 
> mum.  I just believe Lily did more than just die.

Now Carol:
Wasn't there a post or a thread awhile back that distinguished the
protection Harry gained by being placed with his blood kin
(Dumbledore's charm) from the protection he gained from his mother's
love but has now lost because Voldemort shares his blood? I think
we're dealing with the same sort of confusion here. Dumbledore's charm
has nothing to do with a separate charm that Lily *may* have cast to
protect Harry through her own death.

I agree with Mandy that love alone is not enough to account for the
rebounding of a spell that only Harry, a baby of fifteen months, has
ever survived and that we need an alternative or additional
explanation (which of course must remain theoretical at this point). I
think we need to take into account Lily's ability with charms, which
I've discussed in another post, the rune connection, and JKR's hint
that we would learn something significant about Harry's mother in Book
7. All of this suggests the possibility that Lily placed some sort of
 charm on Harry that would protect her if she died first. That also
explains her urgent pleas to Voldemort not only to spare Harry but to
kill her instead. Yes, any mother would have defended her child, but
Lily is offering herself as a target. "Kill me instead! Kill me!" And
Voldemort's initial response is to dismiss her as a "silly girl" (not
a threat, like James, who confronted him and forced a fight), but he
ultimately kills her, too--and in doing so, not only seals his own
fate and "marks Harry as his equal," but creates a strange sort of
bond between himself and Harry that seems more likely to have resulted
from a protective charm than from a rebounding Avada Kedavra curse.

So, Mandy, I agree with you, or rather, I think your theory is very
plausible. (See my previous post on charms and the Eihwaz rune.) Of
course we can't offer conclusive proof for any theory or it would
cease to be a theory. But we can find evidence to support the
possibility. Those who want facts and absolutes should study math, not
literature.

Carol, who is quite sure that when we've all read the seventh book and
there's nothing left to theorize about, this forum will be reduced to
the few members (twelve or so) who care to analyze the completed works
and the List Elves will be freed.