The Scar. Was: Choices - or not

whizbang whizbang121 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 28 01:52:29 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 89820

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" 

> Carol wrote:
> However, it's possible that Lily placed a protective charm on him 
> that caused the scar to appear when Voldemort tried to AK Harry. I 
> don't think it was merely her love that protected him. (After all, 
> Barty Crouch's mother also died for her son, but she didn't save 
> him from evil influences--or dementors.) 
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Whizbang here:
Barty Crouch Jr.'s mother died of an illness.  Good planning got 
junior out of Azkaban and substitued Mrs Crouch, but it's not quite 
the same thing.

Beyond that, Harry is the one with the power to vanquish the Dark 
Lord.  To compare him to any other mother's son in this situation is 
again, apples and oranges.  And while I concede that our information 
concerning the lack of a countercurse for the AK came from fake 
Moody, ie Crouch Jr, still if there was a countercurse, I'm sure 
everyone would know it.  Molly would be practicing it on a shooting 
range.  If there is a countercurse, it seems odd that Lily would be 
the only one who knew it.

It seems like Harry's being "the one with the power" is what 
backfired Voldemort's AK.

-Whizbang, who is relatively certain she's doing this all wrong.
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Carol wrote:
> We know from the same scene in Ollivander's that Lily's wand 
> was "a nice wand for charm work" just as James's was "excellent 
> for transfiguration" (SS/PS 82). We know that the reference to 
> James's wand foreshadowed his ability to transform into a stag. 
> The reference to Lily's wand is probably foreshadowing as well.
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Whizbang here:
It could just as easily refer to Lily's contributions to defying the 
Dark Lord three times, which we know she and James did, as to any 
charm she may have put on Harry, for which there is no evidence.
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Carol wrote:
> The runes that have been discussed here lately are probably
> important, too--not because of the appearance of Harry's scar in 
> the films or the illustrations in the books, but because of 
> Hermione's (and Luna's) interest in runes. One of them is bound to 
> notice that Harry's lightning-shaped scar resembles the Eihwas 
> rune, which Hermione confused with Ehwaz on her O.W.L.s: "I 
> mistranslated 'ehwaz'," said Hermione furiously. It means 
> 'partnership,' not 'defense.' I mixed it up with 'eihwaz.'" (OoP 
> 715, Am. ed.). So if eihwaz (defense or protection is indeed 
> lightning-shaped, the scar could be a form of protection for Harry-
> -as well as the mark that Voldemort placed on him ("marked him as 
> his equal").
> 
> Carol
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Whizbang here:
Well explained.  We used the movie and book covers in an attempt to 
identify the rune that scars Harry's forehead.  It's a matter of 
interpretation, especially as there isn't really any consistency in 
illustrations, but as near as we could figure, we thought it looked 
like the sowelo.  That said .......... ?

-Whizbang






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