Giving the map to Lupin (Was: Lupin's vampire essay)

severelysigune severelysigune at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 29 15:07:00 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 89895

Carol wrote:
> Snip
<< Lupin says, "I'll take that back, shall I?" and tucks the map into 
his pocket. When has it been in his possession since the time Filch 
confiscated it twenty or so years before? It was in the twins' 
possession, then Harry's, and now Snape has confiscated it. He 
doesn't trust Lupin, yet he lets him take it without question or 
objection.
Does he suspect, or even know, that Lupin is one of the makers? Why,
when he sees the nicknames of the four makers (all of whom insult 
him) does he immediately call for Lupin? Does he know those four 
nicknames from the past? 
snip>>

Sue replied:
<< I have always assumed (dangerous I know) that Snape did indeed 
know the nicknames of the Marauders. It also occured to me that 
perhaps Snape believed that Lupin had actually given Harry the map or 
that he had inherited it from his father.  I don't think Snape would 
have allowed him to take it if he did not think it belonged to 
Lupin.  It has always been my belief that Snape didn't say anything 
to Harry about the makers because he had promised DD he would keep 
his mouth shut about Lupin and Black, especially around Harry.  If he 
had told Harry that Lupin was one of the makers, Harry might have 
asked questions Snape and Lupin were not supposed to answer.

In OotP, Snapes Worst Memory, the marauders repeated refer to each 
other by thier nicknames.  I can only find one example when Snape 
would definately have heard "Bad luck, Prongs" said Wirius briskly, 
turning back to Snape (pg 647 US ed.) IMO if they so easily used the 
nicknames in that scene, they would have used them easily everywhere; 
class, hallway etc. (snip)>>


Sigune reflects:
There is one thing that troubles me, though. Isn't the scene 
in "Snape's Worst memory" supposed to take place during James 
Potter's fifth year at Hogwarts? Now, the nicknames derive from the 
boys' Animagus forms, don't they? And they only figured out how to 
transfigure themselves into animals after their /sixth/ year, because 
in their sixth year Sirius played his prank on Snape and that means 
Remus still had to go to the Shrieking Shack at that time. In PoA he 
explains that this wasn't necessary anymore as soon as his friends 
became Animagi, as they were able to control him in animal form.

So: there is no problem with 'Moony', because Lupin was a werewolf 
ever since he entered Howarts; but how can we explain the use 
of 'Prongs', 'Padfoot' and 'Wormtail' if the stag, the dog and the 
rat forms are yet to be assumed?

Or am I getting it all wrong? (That is also a possibility of 
course :) ).

Yours severely,

Sigune
- who still wants to know why they called Snape 'Snivellus' as he 
doesn't seem the crybaby type.





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