Giving the map to Lupin (Was: Lupin's vampire essay)
severelysigune
severelysigune at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 29 15:07:00 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89895
Carol wrote:
> Snip
<< Lupin says, "I'll take that back, shall I?" and tucks the map into
his pocket. When has it been in his possession since the time Filch
confiscated it twenty or so years before? It was in the twins'
possession, then Harry's, and now Snape has confiscated it. He
doesn't trust Lupin, yet he lets him take it without question or
objection.
Does he suspect, or even know, that Lupin is one of the makers? Why,
when he sees the nicknames of the four makers (all of whom insult
him) does he immediately call for Lupin? Does he know those four
nicknames from the past?
snip>>
Sue replied:
<< I have always assumed (dangerous I know) that Snape did indeed
know the nicknames of the Marauders. It also occured to me that
perhaps Snape believed that Lupin had actually given Harry the map or
that he had inherited it from his father. I don't think Snape would
have allowed him to take it if he did not think it belonged to
Lupin. It has always been my belief that Snape didn't say anything
to Harry about the makers because he had promised DD he would keep
his mouth shut about Lupin and Black, especially around Harry. If he
had told Harry that Lupin was one of the makers, Harry might have
asked questions Snape and Lupin were not supposed to answer.
In OotP, Snapes Worst Memory, the marauders repeated refer to each
other by thier nicknames. I can only find one example when Snape
would definately have heard "Bad luck, Prongs" said Wirius briskly,
turning back to Snape (pg 647 US ed.) IMO if they so easily used the
nicknames in that scene, they would have used them easily everywhere;
class, hallway etc. (snip)>>
Sigune reflects:
There is one thing that troubles me, though. Isn't the scene
in "Snape's Worst memory" supposed to take place during James
Potter's fifth year at Hogwarts? Now, the nicknames derive from the
boys' Animagus forms, don't they? And they only figured out how to
transfigure themselves into animals after their /sixth/ year, because
in their sixth year Sirius played his prank on Snape and that means
Remus still had to go to the Shrieking Shack at that time. In PoA he
explains that this wasn't necessary anymore as soon as his friends
became Animagi, as they were able to control him in animal form.
So: there is no problem with 'Moony', because Lupin was a werewolf
ever since he entered Howarts; but how can we explain the use
of 'Prongs', 'Padfoot' and 'Wormtail' if the stag, the dog and the
rat forms are yet to be assumed?
Or am I getting it all wrong? (That is also a possibility of
course :) ).
Yours severely,
Sigune
- who still wants to know why they called Snape 'Snivellus' as he
doesn't seem the crybaby type.
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