The Scapegoat Archetype
Victoria
vikkigoult at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Jan 30 09:45:14 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 89957
Frost:
Actually, for me it is that she doesn't stick with the archetypes. Yes, a lot of the characters have similarities, but they often break
free of them....
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Snape fits no archetype that I can think of, and I think he is a
extremely post-modern character...
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This isn't a morality play. This isn't an allegory.
Hi, I've just joined this group and this is my first post :)
I think Snape actually might fall into an archetype; that of the
Shapeshifter. The Shapeshifter's loyalities are ambiguous or will
change at some point. They are there to produce tension as neither
the Hero, nor the reader can ever be fully sure whether to trust
them. They also often act as the catylyst for a change to occur in
the Hero themselves. By the end, their true intentions are usually
made clear, wherever their loyalities lie.
I do think that JKR uses archetypes, she seems to enjoy the fairytale
model, but has adapted it in her own way, made it all more real, less
predictable and therefore more meaningful to the audience. The
characters can transcend their achetypical boundaries to become
tangible people in their own right. I agree that it this ability to
take 2-D paperdolls and breath real life into them, that makes me
love her stories! Yet I also partially disagree with your assertion
that the the Harry Potter stories are in no way akin to a morality
play or an allegory. I think that in some ways this is precisely
JKR's intentions.
As each story has developed, the fictional world in which Harry lives
has become increasingly more morally complex. JKR has discussed (I
believe) that there are some allegorical aspects to the story. I'll
admit that this is no Black&White After School Special lecture upon
morality, but they are nonetheless, very moral books. We follow Harry
as he struggles to make sense of this world with it's ever changing
allegiances and threats. As all his pre-conceptions come tumbling
around him and he is forced to adapt to new circumstances whilst
things he took for granted were constant are suddenly snatched away
from him. The reader is also invited to examine in detail the moral
issues that are raised each step of the way. So I think they are
moral stories, but very evolved ones.
Sorry for rambling a little there - sleep dep ;)
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