Sirius revisited

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 103959


Alla wrote previously:
> > 
> > I don't think so anymore, although it is subject to correction, 
of 
> > course. For now I am convinced that  whoever practices Dark Magic 
> > in "Potterverse" is evil, period)
> > 
> > With that attitude in mind, I give Sirius major credit for 
breaking 
> > away from them.
> > 
 
> Kneasy:
> Being a bit unforgiving aren't you?
> By that standard Harry is "evil, period" for casting a Crucio! in 
the 
> Ministry.
> 


Alla:

Unforgiving? Maybe . I maybe phrased it a little too harshly, but my 
original intent still stands. OK, how about that - "Anybody who 
practices Dark Magic on a permanent basis and kills people with it is 
evil, period"

skip.
 


> > Alla wrote previously:
> > 
> > We don't know whether Sirius was punished or not. We only know 
that 
> > he was not expelled. It is a pure speculation that he would 
> > definitely told Harry if he was punished. Maybe the punishment 
was so 
> > embarrasing for him that he did not want to mention it to Harry.
> > 
> snip.
> >
> 
> Kneasy:
> This topic was discussed at length last year, if you remember. I 
haven't
> had time to go back to it, but the general consensus, backed by DD 
> having told Snape never to mention the incident again, leans 
towards no
> punishment being handed out. There may be more definite evidence;
> I'll have to do a search.
> 
>

Alla:

General consensus among Snape defenders? :o) I remember the 
discussion and remember myself absolutely not being convinced by that.

DD telling Snape not to mention the incident again is irrelevant to 
whether Sirius was punished or not. Could it be that Dumbledore was 
simply concerned about other students learning that werewolf is one 
of the students? Could it be that he was concerned about Lupin, who 
so far as the general consensus seems to be (Pippin excluded of 
course :o)) was the absolutely innocent party in all of that.


I don't remember ANY evidence in canon that Sirius was or was not 
punished, but of course I am always prepared to eat my words.

I tend to think that he was punished enough under Dumbledore 
standards, but of course not enough under Snape's. 

snip.


> Kneasy:
> No.
> There is no evidence that he was particularly bright. By all 
accounts the
> Animagus spell doesn't require brains, just practice to get it 
right.
 

Alla:

Animagus spell does not require brains? I beg to differ. There are 
only seven of the registered after all in the last century. It must 
have been not very easy to manage it.

Besides McGonagall calls Sirius and James the brightest students in 
PoA.