Sirius revisited. Character discussions

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No: HPFGUIDX 104297

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> But if you're unhappy with my posts on Sirius then you have a 
choice -  
> ignore them or counter with canon. 

> 
> Nora picked up on my contention regarding intelligence. Good for 
Nora.
> That's the sort of response I like. 
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> Kneasy


Alla:

Kneasy, I love Nora's posts, but I was not thinking about Nora's post 
I posted almost simultaneously with her about you not giving an 
adequate rebuttal to the McGonagall statement. I think that Nora is 
perfectly capable of defending herself. I was defending MY position.

Am I unhappy with your posts? Of course not, because if I were, it is 
my choice indeed whether to read them or not. I felt that your 
debating tactic in that message was not very fair, that is all. You 
basically rebutted with it is not true, because you feel that 
Mcgonagall would not say bad things about her students, whom she 
liked (even though few people commented later that she had absolutely 
no reason to like Sirius at that point in time) and I thought it was 
perfectly acceptable for me to express my disagreement with that .


Now, back to Sirius. :)

Kneasy:

The "but I like him" "But he loves
> Harry" and particularly the "Azkaban stunted his development" 
threads 
> don't exactly counter what I'm saying. If Sirius is dodgy, then he 
was 
> dodgy *before* going to Azkaban. That's when most of his disasterous
> 'decisions' were  made - before Azkaban. If he's bad, he was 
probably 
> bad even then. If he's not bad then we'll find out sooner or later 
and I'll
> have to eat my words, but as things stand too many things don't add
> up when I look at Sirius. 



Alla:


Eh, as far as I remember responces "Azkaban stunted his emotional 
development", at least my responces of that variety were given in 
responce of POST-AZKABAN part of Sirius life.

I think it is very reasonable to counter with that in responce to 
let's say "Why Sirius did not apologise to Snape in the Shrieking 
Shack?"


I think it is also a reasonable responce to the  Sirius confusing 
Harry and James in OoP, etc., etc.


Before the Azkaban, yes, Sirius made his fair share of the disastrous 
decisions.