Snape's Patronus is Lily / Snape Penseive

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 5 02:45:43 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104332

> Alla wrote previously:
> > I am now thinking that Snape's Patronus could be Lily (if Snape 
> > indeed had feelings for her) and Snape's Boggart could be James. 



Lauraasia:
 
> What a fabulous idea! Imagine the emotional scarring of Harry 
> realisng that Lily if Snape's happiest memory! (And James 
tormenting 
> him is one of his worst). 

snip.


Alla:

Thanks for the compliment. I loved your post very much. It is 
beatifully written. Even though I strongly disagree with the first 
part of it


Lauraasia:

I thought it was incredibly immature for Harry to persist 
> in his hatred of Snape after all he'd seen that year. I personally 
> would have thought it would be more fitting for Harry to have 
> immediately apologised for the behaviour he witnessed in the 
> Penseive, before ducking the projectile jars coming towards his 
> head. Clearly, some kind of understanding between Harry and Snape 
> needs to occur. So, I think JKR is waiting for a more significant 
> monment for Harry to risk all and say sorry to Snape for everything 
> his father did. 

Alla:

I don't know if you read my many other posts on this subject, if you 
did not - the brief summary of my position is that no matter how 
wrong Harry was in looking into Snape's pensieve, and he was WRONG, I 
place the main blame on Snape for not resuming Occlumency. I really 
don't want to go into more details now. :) (Message 100506 or 100606, 
I forgot again the exact number, if you are interested, started the 
thread "Who is the adult)

I'll just say that I absolutely don't think that Harry should have 
apologised for what James did to Snape. Harry should have apologised 
for looking into pensieve, that's it. Everybody is responsible for 
their own actions.

But, I also believe that some kind of understanding between them will 
occur at the end.


Laurasia:

> But, onto the Patronus!Lily- if there's another instance that will 
> caused such a powerful split desire as the Penseive scene did in 
> OotP, it would have to be Harry seeing his mother in a silvery form 
> shielding Snape and himself from some Dementors. The Penseive scene 
> made Harry pity Snape, but he still hates him. Seeing his mother 
> would again cause Harry to pity/like/empathise with Snape, yet hate 
> his guts for even looking at his pure innocent mother. It would on 
> one hand create a deep understanding between the two characters, 
but 
> on the other, make Harry so angry that Snape has human emotions- 
> like love for a woman- *his* mother.



Alla:

Harry did not hate Snape after the Pensieve scene. He only pitied 
him. "he will never forgive Snape, ever..." occurs after Sirius' 
death.

So, I think that if Harry sees Lily shielding Snape from the 
Dementors, he will pity him more. I don't think that it will make him 
more angry at Snape than he is now. Is that even possible? :)








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