Getting to Hogwarts

amanitamuscaria1 saraandra at saraandra.plus.com
Mon Jul 5 12:08:15 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 104379

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "(Mrs.) Lee Storm (God Is The 
Healing Force)" <n2fgc at a...> wrote:
> | From: amanitamuscaria1
> | Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 08:59
> | AmanitaMuscaria now - Surely what you've just posted, Lee, points
> | firmly at the 'socioeconomic distinction'. Who better than the
> | Malfoys to be able to get a portkey set up for their convenience? 
All
> | Lucius would have to do is jingle his pocket at Fudge.
> 
> [Lee]:
> Ah--well, Lucius, I think, uses more than just his money; he uses 
his "in
> people" at the MOM, etc., so sure, he could probably get a portkey, 
just as
> he got Dd removed from his headmastership in COS, etc.  Lucius is a 
law unto
> himself...well, so it seems. <Sigh>

Amanitamuscaria again - Of course. But you are now arguing the exact 
opposite of what your original premise was, IMHO.

> 
> But, for the most part, as far as most wizards are concerned, I 
still stick
> to what I say. <Grin>

AmanitaMuscaria again - Why? You've given no reason or justification.

snip
> [Lee]:
> Well, if we want to be really honest, rules can be "bendy" even in 
RL.  How
> many corrupt or problematic figures have appeared in governments 
large and
> small, in the justice system, in any profession one can name?  
These are
> people who bend with whatever wind of change blows, to whoever can 
find the
> right button to push.
> 
> IMHO, Fudge is not very stable; snip
> Lee :-)

AmanitaMuscaria again : Of course; that's a given, as is that Fudge 
is for the chop. We see JKR reflect the real world, one of the 
reasons that the series is neither children's or adult reading 
exclusively. But we were talking about the class or socioeconomic 
differences in the wizarding world.
Surely the digs of Malfoy Snr. and Jnr. at the  Weasley clan lead to 
several conclusions.
The gibes are about the relative influence and wealth of the two 
families. The gibes strike home in the Weasleys Snr. and Jnr., 
leading to fights, frustration, and clenched teeth at the least for 
Arthur and Ron, so they are not secure in their own self-esteem.
Molly doesn't react to the taunts in Flourish and Blotts, that may be 
for lots of reasons.
The Malfoys use those specific insults because they know they will be 
effective, indicating there is a well-defined social hierarchy in the 
wizarding world. What that reveals of the security of the Malfoys 
within that hierarchy is best left for another post, I think.
Cheers. AmanitaMuscaria 





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